CPB sets up check point on jetway of SFO-JFK
02-26-2017 | 03:48 PM
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The people that are in prison are not innocent. They are there for a reason.
02-26-2017 | 04:10 PM
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The vast majority of convictions are due to plea-bargains. You're poor, your innocent, you can't afford a decent attorney. They're going to throw the book at you -- or you can plea down for 1/4 of the time. Would you take those odds? It works.
And it's not just minorities these days, the fastest growing demographic behind bars is white males.
BBC NEWS | In Depth
http://www.economist.com/news/leader...ilhouse-nation
http://www.economist.com/blogs/econo...ist-explains-8
To answer the request for a citation, it's 96%
Stronger Hand for Judges After Rulings on Plea Deals - The New York Times
02-26-2017 | 04:43 PM
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Oops, the OP got himself a ban. Wonder what happened to him?
02-26-2017 | 04:44 PM
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Excellent!
02-26-2017 | 04:53 PM
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The general public actually doesn't need ID to get into the airport / onto the plane.
https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-...identification
(Scroll down to forgot ID)
I don't know anyone who has actually been in that situation tho ....
https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-...identification
(Scroll down to forgot ID)
I don't know anyone who has actually been in that situation tho ....
They also try to confirm your identity with cards and any other mean possible
02-26-2017 | 05:54 PM
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From: DOWNGRADE COMPLETE: Thanks Gary. Thanks SWAPA.
02-26-2017 | 07:10 PM
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I highly recommend watching the documentary '13th' on Netflix. While that focuses on the racial aspect of prisons, it's still an eye opener into the justice system in America, or better yet the injustice system.
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02-26-2017 | 07:20 PM
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Sure there are. There are a lot of innocent people in there as well. The current rate of incarceration in the US cannot be defended -- we're number one in the world. The profit motive certainly doesn't help. And just as we were about to turn a corner by Obama rolling back for-profit prisons, we have a new gang in town that wants to ratchet the whole thing back up again.
The vast majority of convictions are due to plea-bargains. You're poor, your innocent, you can't afford a decent attorney. They're going to throw the book at you -- or you can plea down for 1/4 of the time. Would you take those odds? It works.
And it's not just minorities these days, the fastest growing demographic behind bars is white males.
BBC NEWS | In Depth
http://www.economist.com/news/leader...ilhouse-nation
http://www.economist.com/blogs/econo...ist-explains-8
To answer the request for a citation, it's 96%
Stronger Hand for Judges After Rulings on Plea Deals - The New York Times
The vast majority of convictions are due to plea-bargains. You're poor, your innocent, you can't afford a decent attorney. They're going to throw the book at you -- or you can plea down for 1/4 of the time. Would you take those odds? It works.
And it's not just minorities these days, the fastest growing demographic behind bars is white males.
BBC NEWS | In Depth
http://www.economist.com/news/leader...ilhouse-nation
http://www.economist.com/blogs/econo...ist-explains-8
To answer the request for a citation, it's 96%
Stronger Hand for Judges After Rulings on Plea Deals - The New York Times
I think the most blatant example of this is the central park five case back in the 80's. The NYPD had absolutely no case against these kids and they knew it, so they bullied them into accepting plea deals and admitting guilt. Completely destroyed these kid's lives
02-26-2017 | 09:36 PM
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If anybody is wondering why all of us are legally subject to searches at airports (NYC subways, schools and other exempted places), just read New Jersey vs T.L.O. (1985). The Supreme Court ruled that there are some exceptions to the 4th Amendment... "exceptional circumstances ... beyond the need for normal law enforcement [that] make the warrant and probable cause requirement impractical." Feel free to turn down that CBP or TSA agent. You might not be arrested but you'll be required to leave the airport and might have to answer to your employer why you were unable to fly that flight.
02-26-2017 | 09:58 PM
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If anybody is wondering why all of us are legally subject to searches at airports (NYC subways, schools and other exempted places), just read New Jersey vs T.L.O. (1985). The Supreme Court ruled that there are some exceptions to the 4th Amendment... "exceptional circumstances ... beyond the need for normal law enforcement [that] make the warrant and probable cause requirement impractical." Feel free to turn down that CBP or TSA agent. You might not be arrested but you'll be required to leave the airport and might have to answer to your employer why you were unable to fly that flight.
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