Half wing

Thanks for the info. Perhaps he deserves more respect than my tool comment. Apologies.

Aviatorr

Good to see, fu&k all the ME3 airlines!!!

Laker24

The Stone Age didn't end because they ran out of stones. Replace oil and the Middle East carriers will be out of business.

Karnak

Is there any chance the ME3 carriers have also muddied the waters with misinformation?

So if we score over 100 on the "Been There...Done That" scale, our opinions are indisputable? [I'm at 112, so you may not dispute my conclusions ]

My observation of his respectability on PPW is different than yours. Some of the first-person accounts and information he posts there are valuable. Some of his opinions on the objectives and merits of ME carriers posted there reek of someone who holds a grudge against US carriers.

I don't think he's a tool. I also don't think he's an impeachable source on the topic. He carries biases like all of us.

Typhoonpilot

No worries.

Based on your join date you were not here in the dark days of the early 2000s when so many pilots were getting furloughed; losing their pensions; and/or otherwise stuck in a dead end regional job. The whole foreign airline section of the forum was my idea back when the site was owned by Paul and John.

Jobs overseas at foreign airlines were a good interim solution for many who were getting furloughed or were able to take their pension money and get out while the getting was good. It also became an answer to the decade of stagnation caused by 9-11 and the change to age 65 retirement that so many regional pilots had to suffer through.

Back then Emirates did not even serve the United States; Qatar was small; and Etihad didn't even exist yet. There was no threat to ALPA pilots or their jobs. In fact, quite the opposite. Those carriers and others in Asia were welcoming out of work ALPA pilots.

Fast forward to a few years ago and the former ALPA pilots who took those jobs start getting called scabs on this board. They start getting threatened that they will never get a job back in the USA because of what they have seemingly done to pilots who weren't even out of the military or employed at majors in the early 2000s.

I met Skyone via this message board well over ten years ago. He was one of those DAL pilots who retired pre-bankruptcy. His first job post DAL evaporated and he found himself looking again. I was glad to help him and dozens of other guys like him by providing advice and information here in this forum. I didn't ask for anything in return and have made many good friends as a result.

For those that pay attention I stopped suggesting that any U.S. pilot looking for work go overseas quite some time ago. It irks me, however, that those who did as far back as 2002 get called names and have veiled threats made against them on this board.

One thing many will learn over time is that ALPA strategy is flawed far more often than it is correct. Their strategy against the ME3 is flawed, in my opinion. I've written about that many times on here. The heyday off the ME3 has already come and gone. The arrogance of their leadership will lead to their own ruination. Meanwhile the real threats to U.S. pilots are coming from other places that ALPA hasn't even started a discussion about yet.

e6bpilot

Great post from someone with a lot of perspective. Thanks.

White Cap

Thanks for being the voice of reason from a 5Y pilot. I spend much of my time in the Sandbox, always enjoy spending time with expat pilots (I was one also). I have always thought the ME3 was a red herring for the US majors, as these airlines do not compete against the ME3. The ME3 (to me) is the unofficial carrier of the subcontinent, and no American company has ever exploited this market.

caflyer

Typhoonpilot - could you elaborate on the last statement please ??