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07-15-2017 | 08:50 AM
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Lol, huh?? This assumes that the only people who even begin flight training are those that "possess the skill set" and those that don't possess it don't begin training. What is the skill set? How can one determine what "the skill set" is? There are no barriers to beginning civilian flight training. There are no prerequisites.. other than "Do you have the money?"
I really don't get how you guys are getting so hung up on this. There is a reason you don't need any more than a high school diploma to get a job as a pilot. There are some hefty hurdles to get into med school. There are hefty hurdles to get into law school. You've gotta do some work to get into a good engineering program.
What do you have to do to get into flight school? Cash, card, or check.
Yes, flight school is challenging. Yes, you will have to put some work in. But again, there is a reason you only need a high school diploma and some technical training to get a job as a pilot. It ain't law school. It ain't med school. (Both of which you have to qualify to even get accepted in the first place) The vast majority of people that start flight training to become a pilot, and don't run out of money along the way, are successful.
Yes, this job is amazing. I've wanted to do it since I was a kid and I wouldn't trade it for the world. But stop acting like we're somehow better than those working below the wing because we were fortunate enough to scrounge up the money for flight training.
I really don't get how you guys are getting so hung up on this. There is a reason you don't need any more than a high school diploma to get a job as a pilot. There are some hefty hurdles to get into med school. There are hefty hurdles to get into law school. You've gotta do some work to get into a good engineering program.
What do you have to do to get into flight school? Cash, card, or check.
Yes, flight school is challenging. Yes, you will have to put some work in. But again, there is a reason you only need a high school diploma and some technical training to get a job as a pilot. It ain't law school. It ain't med school. (Both of which you have to qualify to even get accepted in the first place) The vast majority of people that start flight training to become a pilot, and don't run out of money along the way, are successful.
Yes, this job is amazing. I've wanted to do it since I was a kid and I wouldn't trade it for the world. But stop acting like we're somehow better than those working below the wing because we were fortunate enough to scrounge up the money for flight training.
07-15-2017 | 08:55 AM
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07-15-2017 | 01:59 PM
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Someone should do a test to see just how low you can go before the price of crashes exceed crew member savings. Reagan proved that average people can be ATC. Bush proved that even functionally retarded people can be A&Ps. If pilots ever got too expensive, I bet they will find that average folks could handle the job. The upper middle class would have to make a big deal out of another line of work.
07-15-2017 | 07:55 PM
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Nailed it.
I'll never understand this attitude from fellow pilots. If you want to be blunt about it, the only likely real difference between you and those "no education toilet cleaners" is that you were fortunate enough to have the money/means to pursue this career. If they had the money (and desire) for flight training, most of them would be right where you are. You (and the rest of us) are not that special.
I'll never understand this attitude from fellow pilots. If you want to be blunt about it, the only likely real difference between you and those "no education toilet cleaners" is that you were fortunate enough to have the money/means to pursue this career. If they had the money (and desire) for flight training, most of them would be right where you are. You (and the rest of us) are not that special.
07-15-2017 | 08:02 PM
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Nothing you said negates anything I said up there. Many of those "toilet cleaners", given the opportunity, would make it through a civilian flight training program with just as much "dedication and hard work" and you and I. Unless you were military (I was not), having money was a gigantic piece of the pie. The largest piece of the pie. It may not be what the pilot ego wants to hear, but it's the truth.
07-20-2017 | 02:49 PM
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Yes, there is no doubt that there are SOME people who just aren't cut out to fly an airplane. The point, however, is that the MAJORITY of people, given the flight training, would have no problems getting through the training and becoming competent pilots, given the MONEY to make it happen. The biggest reason people with the desire to be a professional pilot don't finish flight training is money. There's really no reason, aside from ego, to be contesting this.
Your trying to illustrate that Americans with privilege can finish without as much determination, and that is true.
But don't say "majority" can finish training, because "majority" of people can't back up a trailer.
Furthermore, finishing training is not the only indication a pilot is fit to be a professional pilot, most every pilot who has crashed and died over the last hundred years "finished training" and that includes military pilots.
07-20-2017 | 04:10 PM
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What is she doing now ? Did she move on to airline or corporate flying position ? Come to think of it, most flying jobs would very likely be a demotion in pay for her. (To have that kind of scratch for an ambitious flight training program.)
07-20-2017 | 04:41 PM
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I'll never understand this attitude from fellow pilots. If you want to be blunt about it, the only likely real difference between you and those "no education toilet cleaners" is that you were fortunate enough to have the money/means to pursue this career. If they had the money (and desire) for flight training, most of them would be right where you are. You (and the rest of us) are not that special.
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