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Old 07-31-2017 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by RI830
One can fly over Polar routes, Siberia or parts of Africa that could get them into an ETOPS scenario but aren't over a body of water.

So to answer your question, ETOPS only isn't going to get them the routing you said. They will be Ext Overwater equipped for that route.
Right. And to make it more fun, the flight doesn't have to be filed ETOPS the ENTIRE segment.

A buddy of mine showed me a flight he did where it was only required for ~3 miles/20 seconds of a 14 hour flight.
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Old 07-31-2017 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by John Carr
Right. And to make it more fun, the flight doesn't have to be filed ETOPS the ENTIRE segment.

A buddy of mine showed me a flight he did where it was only required for ~3 miles/20 seconds of a 14 hour flight.
It would be pretty rare to be ETOPS for an entire flight. But, a flight is either ETOPS or it's not, no matter how long you actually spend in ETOPS airspace. Indy to Paris we had one segment and were only ETOPS for 1:38. Pretty normal for NAT crossing. KIX-MEM we had two segments, the first was about 1:40 and then out near the Aleutians, back in for ~2 hours. Further south it can be 3 segments.

I've been on the one you're talking about with just a few minutes, which is typical in western China/Kazakhstan. In for a minute, in for an hour, you still have to jump through the same hoops prior to entry and your flight plan say "ETOPS".
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Old 08-01-2017 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
It would be pretty rare to be ETOPS for an entire flight. But, a flight is either ETOPS or it's not, no matter how long you actually spend in ETOPS airspace. Indy to Paris we had one segment and were only ETOPS for 1:38. Pretty normal for NAT crossing. KIX-MEM we had two segments, the first was about 1:40 and then out near the Aleutians, back in for ~2 hours. Further south it can be 3 segments.
Correct, I phrased wrong.

I've been on the one you're talking about with just a few minutes, which is typical in western China/Kazakhstan.
Probably not, this guy is UAL and your FX, right? And it wasn't over central/east Asia.
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Old 08-01-2017 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by John Carr
Probably not, this guy is UAL and your FX, right? And it wasn't over central/east Asia.
Now I phrased wrong. I meant to say, "I've been on one LIKE the one you mentioned."
Lots of routes and reasons why there might be very short segments worldwide.
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