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Originally Posted by Lemons
(Post 2429148)
Denmark is a tiny nation.
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Originally Posted by NEDude
(Post 2429390)
With significantly less wealth and resources than the United States.
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
(Post 2429407)
The climate there allows that type of energy use.
Of course the other thing your post points out, although most likely not intentionally, is the sad attitude of many Americans. You make up all sorts of excuses as to why progress cannot be made, or why things cannot get done. The United States has had the largest economy in the world for over a century, it has an abundance of natural resources, and over the past two centuries been a world leader in innovation. So you are sitting here telling me that the richest, most innovative nation on earth cannot develop viable clean energy sources when nations with just a sliver of resources have been doing so for decades?! What a sad commentary about the so-called "greatest nation on earth". |
Originally Posted by NEDude
(Post 2429410)
True. And of course the U.S. does not have any areas with a similar type of climate and/or winds...
Of course the other thing your post points out, although most likely not intentionally, is the sad attitude of many Americans. You make up all sorts of excuses as to why progress cannot be made, or why things cannot get done. The United States has had the largest economy in the world for over a century, it has an abundance of natural resources, and over the past two centuries been a world leader in innovation. So you are sitting here telling me that the richest, most innovative nation on earth cannot develop viable clean energy sources when nations with just a sliver of resources have been doing so for decades?! What a sad commentary about the so-called "greatest nation on earth". You can not walk across this planet without leaving a footprint no matter how lightly you try to tread. |
Originally Posted by qball
(Post 2429463)
You need to look in some science journals. Photo volteaic solar roof panels for instance. As soon as it becomes profitable and cost effective for these types of things, they will become common place. But every new technology can have deleterious side effects (wind turbines are the perfect example and it is old technology). All these things will have minimal effect if the world population continues to grow at the current pace.
You can not walk across this planet without leaving a footprint no matter how lightly you try to tread. In other words: let's just give up and keep using the old stuff we know is both finite and highly pollutive because the right people cannot get rich from new technologies. You also need to ask yourself why major utility companies are lobbying hard against the solar panel industry. |
I see Folks have once again hijacked this thread to carry on their incessant arguing and banter regarding climate change and global warming (because we all know we are right). :rolleyes:
Every bit as useful as arguing about politics and religion. Outcome, always the same: Zero on the “I Am Right and You Are Wrong” Scale. ;) |
Originally Posted by NEDude
(Post 2429410)
True. And of course the U.S. does not have any areas with a similar type of climate and/or winds...
Of course the other thing your post points out, although most likely not intentionally, is the sad attitude of many Americans. You make up all sorts of excuses as to why progress cannot be made, or why things cannot get done. The United States has had the largest economy in the world for over a century, it has an abundance of natural resources, and over the past two centuries been a world leader in innovation. So you are sitting here telling me that the richest, most innovative nation on earth cannot develop viable clean energy sources when nations with just a sliver of resources have been doing so for decades?! What a sad commentary about the so-called "greatest nation on earth". It's physically impossible for this reactor to meltdown. It's only subject to terrorist attack, which is a very low threat. The waste heat from using gas turbines instead of steam(Brayton cycle vs Rankine), can be used to pull carbon out of the air, and convert it back to Jet A. |
Originally Posted by Mesabah
(Post 2429571)
It's not that at all, I'm an advocate for 4th gen+ nuclear power, e.g. http://www.terrestrialenergy.com/
It's physically impossible for this reactor to meltdown. It's only subject to terrorist attack, which is a very low threat. The waste heat from using gas turbines instead of steam(Brayton cycle vs Rankine), can be used to pull carbon out of the air, and convert it back to Jet A. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by detpilot
(Post 2429730)
Had never heard of this, but what a great idea! Don't know how you're getting jet A out of airborne carbon, though.
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Originally Posted by dogpilot
(Post 2429348)
That's why most wind farms are in places that blow constantly, i.e Kansas, continental divide, and solar in vegas, cali, Phoenix, etc. it works, stop being ignorant. It is viable, perhaps not ready for a complete replacement, but nevertheless viable. I'm no tree hugger, but this energy is better in the long run.
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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer
(Post 2429747)
Why the hate? Did I insult you? What i saud is true. Of course, the wind mills are in windy locations and solar in sunny places, but they still haven't figured how to store it when the demand is for times when the wind doesn't blow or solar energy is weak (think clouds). The alternate sources are very peaky and their peaks don't always match peak demands, hence the baseload problem.
GF |
Originally Posted by Lemons
(Post 2429148)
Denmark is a tiny nation.
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Originally Posted by Turbosina
(Post 2429808)
So just because a bunch of self-entitled rich idiots are communicating this message, it invalidates the message?
It could be worse, however: a Kardashian might weigh in. :D |
dogpilot,
To power a house, sure, I have several friends and neighbors who have roof panels. They haven't paid an electric bill in years, but highly dependent on tax subsidies which means some other taxpayer is helping to foot the bill. Is all this alternate energy enough to power the country, no. GF |
Put me down for an MRAP.
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