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Originally Posted by Mover
Recovery Obligation rules.
Reassignment rules (lineholders are basically just airport reserves). Min calendar day (lack thereof)/duty rigs. Reserve days off aren't really days off. Premium pay is only 150% and the opportunities are few and far between. No holiday override pay. PBS Coverage days determined by the company. No hotel contract language. Reserve junior manning. Min days off (12 for reserve, 10 for lineholders). PBS line construction values. Profit sharing (nonexistent in the JCBA, a gift from the company and industry lagging). LTD. Short term disability. Second year (and every subsequent year) pay starts 1 year after you complete training, not after Date of Hire, which means you can finish a year with the company and still have 4 months to wait until hitting second year pay (~$15k difference for the average new hire).
It's easier to find the few things where AA is better (commuter rules, training pay, being able to bid long call vs short call, etc.) than list every way our contract lags the rest of the industry.
We agree that things need to be improved. But some of the issues you mentioned aren’t as clear cut as you make them out to be.
Look at UA’s RO and tell me we’d accept it? Conversion to airport standby? I doubt it.
AA’s RO footprint is the longest (bad). Converts to 150% pay past the original footprint. UA’s and DL’s RO footprint is smaller but doesn’t convert to premium pay.
UA reserve assignment is FIFO. Does that remove all seniority when it comes to trip assignments? IDK. But if it does that’s worse.
UA has airport standby. That’s DOA at AA. How many a guys get tagged with it? IDK. But I’d guess the guy researching asked the UA guys.
What about involuntary reserve assignments at UA? Is that on your days off? Pays 125%. AA is voluntary only and pays 100% or 150% depending upon the pilot.
Those reserve issues touch roughly 25-30% of the pilots every single month.
Reserve days off appear to be the same at DL and UA. DL has a provision for more days off if line holders have lower ALVs.
DL has six Golden (“inviolable days”). Maybe they allow flying into the am of your first day off? IDK.
Does UA or DL offer holiday pay? IDK. Contract comparison didn’t mention it (or I missed it).
Do UA or DL PBS have coverage days? IDK. They’re using PBS bidding and I know some of them get slammed (few days off) at the end of December.
DL ALV cap is higher than AA’s on w/b’s (+1:30). UA’s is one hour less on all fleets (90:00 hrs). Everyone is flying more than we used to.
My guess is the guy knew the answers to the questions which is why he said he’d choose DL, then AA, then UA. This was before any improvements UA got this summer/fall.