UA verse AA
12-01-2017 | 06:27 AM
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Boeing Aviator - for UA to experience that fleet growth, via domestic growth, would require SW, AA, and DL to just sit back and let UA effectively take all 9-12% of the upcoming domestic growth. Or if the other Big 3 grew by roughly 5% domestically UA would grow by 14-17% domestically.
If anything I’d think it might be more likely that DL increases its large w/b percentage.
If anything I’d think it might be more likely that DL increases its large w/b percentage.
12-01-2017 | 07:32 AM
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12-02-2017 | 01:10 AM
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From my outside the company perspective it seems like all the UAL talk of adding capacity hasnt resulted in more pilots being hired. There aren't any classes posted for Jan yet. Meanwhile AA has announced officially 925 new hires and has scheduled pilots for Jan class dates and has Feb class dates on the books.
I do keep reading about new RJ's at UAL though.
I do keep reading about new RJ's at UAL though.
12-02-2017 | 06:15 AM
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From my outside the company perspective it seems like all the UAL talk of adding capacity hasnt resulted in more pilots being hired. There aren't any classes posted for Jan yet. Meanwhile AA has announced officially 925 new hires and has scheduled pilots for Jan class dates and has Feb class dates on the books.
I do keep reading about new RJ's at UAL though.
I do keep reading about new RJ's at UAL though.
12-02-2017 | 10:09 PM
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After well over 30 years of doing this, here is my take:
If you have 25+ years left, who is the best to work for will change at least 3 or 4 times. You won't know the answer to this question until after you retire.
So go where you are offered a job that you want to do for a long time and enjoy the ride.
If you have 25+ years left, who is the best to work for will change at least 3 or 4 times. You won't know the answer to this question until after you retire.
So go where you are offered a job that you want to do for a long time and enjoy the ride.
12-05-2017 | 09:00 AM
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Anybody know the general idea of fleet numbers for AA going forward? I saw on this board the 80's and E190's are slated for retirement. Are they being back filled? The AA retirements are higher than all the other Major airlines but if the fleet shrinks then it really won't matter that much.
Just wondering.
Just wondering.
12-05-2017 | 09:55 AM
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Anybody know the general idea of fleet numbers for AA going forward? I saw on this board the 80's and E190's are slated for retirement. Are they being back filled? The AA retirements are higher than all the other Major airlines but if the fleet shrinks then it really won't matter that much.
Just wondering.
Just wondering.
Slice could tell you better but i think block hours have actually increased over the last few years even though the mainline fleet has shrunk slightly.
There’s only 20 190s and 50ish 80s left. They’re being replaced by 73s and more buses. The fleet is supposed to stay relatively stagnant.
12-05-2017 | 11:15 AM
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A couple of years ago there were so many unassigned S80’s that just replacing them 1:1 with 737’s, that would be flying, was going to the same as a doubled digit (30???) increase in fleet size.
The fleet is being back filled. 64 n/b retirements in 2017-2019, 85 new AB/737 deliveries in the same period. Data subject to some change but hopefully fairly close.
Google ‘ MIT Airline Data Project’ and there’s a lot of data.
US/AA 2011 - 2016 block hour data -
2011. 3,361 (000’s)
2012. 3,339
2013. 3,448
2014. 3,602
2015. 3,479
2016. 3,495
4% more than 2011, 3% less than 2014. Half full vs half empty?
The fleet is being back filled. 64 n/b retirements in 2017-2019, 85 new AB/737 deliveries in the same period. Data subject to some change but hopefully fairly close.
Google ‘ MIT Airline Data Project’ and there’s a lot of data.
US/AA 2011 - 2016 block hour data -
2011. 3,361 (000’s)
2012. 3,339
2013. 3,448
2014. 3,602
2015. 3,479
2016. 3,495
4% more than 2011, 3% less than 2014. Half full vs half empty?
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