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crewdawg 11-22-2017 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by ImperialxRat (Post 2469960)
At Alaska each vacation day is worth 3:30 and we can trade day-for-day with open time or another pilot. Vacation days don't need to be kept together.

I hope we never get the ability to fly over vacation or sell back vacation...because pilots will do just that.

aa73 11-23-2017 06:56 PM

Well, after reading through all of this, I can also agree that the contractual differences don’t matter much in the long run - any job at the big 3 plus FDX/UPS are good careers. Contracts come and go, AA stands to gain a bunch of improvements with our next contract.

Bottom line, if our Marine wants to live in the DC area, I’d go UAL in a heartbeat. The IAD flying and hub is awesome... a huge variety of International (and domestic, if international gets old.) drive to IAD and fly a wide body your whole career. You cant do that at AA, you’d have to commute to PHL, CLT, NYC or MIA...all we have at DCA/IAD is the 737 and A320. The only advantage AA has in his situation is better end of career seniority.

Good luck, it’s an awesome choice to have!

Flyingphi 11-24-2017 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by aa73 (Post 2471343)
Well, after reading through all of this, I can also agree that the contractual differences don’t matter much in the long run - any job at the big 3 plus FDX/UPS are good careers. Contracts come and go, AA stands to gain a bunch of improvements with our next contract.

Bottom line, if our Marine wants to live in the DC area, I’d go UAL in a heartbeat. The IAD flying and hub is awesome... a huge variety of International (and domestic, if international gets old.) drive to IAD and fly a wide body your whole career. You cant do that at AA, you’d have to commute to PHL, CLT, NYC or MIA...all we have at DCA/IAD is the 737 and A320. The only advantage AA has in his situation is better end of career seniority.

Good luck, it’s an awesome choice to have!

How senior is the clt base in general and how senior to hold wide body?

AFTrainerGuy 11-25-2017 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by Flyingphi (Post 2471852)
How senior is the clt base in general and how senior to hold wide body?

I’m a March 2014 hire. I’m 72% at about 12800 in CLT

Most junior WB FO in CLT is around 10400

I’d say pretty senior overall (although new hires are in this base)

Who knows for WB... but a long long while I’m sure

EMBFlyer 11-26-2017 06:29 AM


Originally Posted by Flyingphi (Post 2471852)
How senior is the clt base in general and how senior to hold wide body?

Wide body has typically always been very senior in CLT, as it has always been a very small base. The CLT 767 base is closing in March (it was down to 1 or 2 lines anyway and no international). The 330 has also always been very senior (again, small base). There are rumors of them concentrating more 767s in PHL and moving some 330s to CLT, which would grow the category. That remains to be seen, though.

MarineHarrier 11-27-2017 12:53 PM

Been off grid for a few days. I appreciate all the input.

I am going to see how many classes UAL has scheduled in 2018 before making a decision. I was told 925 new pilots this year at American.

Luckily I do not have to make a decision until February.

liveupthere 11-27-2017 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by MarineHarrier (Post 2473050)
Been off grid for a few days. I appreciate all the input.

I am going to see how many classes UAL has scheduled in 2018 before making a decision. I was told 925 new pilots this year at American.

Luckily I do not have to make a decision until February.

How do you have an offer at UAL without any recent flying? Are you a furlough?

John Carr 11-27-2017 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by MarineHarrier (Post 2473050)
Been off grid for a few days. I appreciate all the input.

I am going to see how many classes UAL has scheduled in 2018 before making a decision. I was told 925 new pilots this year at American.

Luckily I do not have to make a decision until February.

If going by this year is a measuring stick, UAL can’t plan more than 2-3 months at a time.

And for Nov-Dec, that proved to be quite challenge for them.

But then again, a while back, AA(G) had a similar issue.

Otterbox 11-27-2017 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by MarineHarrier (Post 2473050)
Been off grid for a few days. I appreciate all the input.

I am going to see how many classes UAL has scheduled in 2018 before making a decision. I was told 925 new pilots this year at American.

Luckily I do not have to make a decision until February.

Take the first class date offered... and if it’s not UAL, switch when they can get you in class.

MarineHarrier 11-28-2017 02:07 AM


Originally Posted by liveupthere (Post 2473051)
How do you have an offer at UAL without any recent flying? Are you a furlough?

CJO from both. I have been doing some Part 91 corporate flying on the side the last 2 years. Logged 168 hours in a LRJET 60.


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