Barring some grand announcement from United, this is why you should probably go to American.

If WB flying is your goal, consider the following. You may see UALs numbers decline a little (probably a very little) as they look to expand their NB foot print.

UAL has 31% of their pilots on WB aircraft, AAL has 21%. DAL has 20%...but only 7% at the top pay rate since we don't band our 330/764 with the 777/350.

Best of luck!

*Numbers are 6-9 months old and based on active pilots.

Right :D

Although the one poster nailed it, take the first class, THEN make a decision.

Awwwww mannnnn, why ya gotta open that can of UAL pay band worms?!?!?! :p Plenty going on in the UAL sub foru.

Hiring plans change. Whether its the 900+ at AA or the 400 at UAL. Focus on base, contract, QOL, seniority progression, etc.

Opting to drive to work and one day a WB job, would be my choice.

Do these percentages at UA and AA include the lower paying 767s?

LOL, well you can't bring it up to many in our forums because, "you can't give one part of the pilot group a bigger raise than another..." It's pretty much a show stopper for some, yet some of them will still complain we don't have enough pilots at the top pay rate.


AAL doesn't have the 767-400 so it wasn't a factor. For UAL...The 764 makes up about 13-14% of their entire 75/76 fleet. We just used that percentage to guesstimate a number to use for the 767-400 fleet. It's a rough number, but probably within a percent or two. Other than that it only accounts for 764/330 and up.

APC airline profiles has the exact fleet counts by aircraft type.

That's where I got the data, I just couldn't remember the exact percentage at the time of the post (it's 13%). My "guesstimate" comment was in reference to how many of their 75/76 pilots (since they fly all the variants) would be included in my count of the 764 pilots, to find an apples-to-apples comparison. Not an exact science, but close enough for some rough numbers.

Intersting thing about the numbers. If DAL pay banded the way UAL/AAL did, we would have more WB captains than AAL and would be ~50 Captains shy of UAL. Obviously, we lose out on WB FOs.

Even I left American to go to United....

SK

ok..
seriously...
THAT is funny~

Motch