Cold Flight Deck - A320 Family
12-07-2017, 01:37 PM
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B6 didn’t buy the foot warmer option. On red eye transcons I bring a Snuggie. Leaves the arms free so when the radio wakes you up you can still manipulate the autopilot
12-07-2017, 01:43 PM
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Many of the DAL 320s are over 20 years old. We put a thermometer at the rudder pedals with the cockpit temp cranked as high as it would go. The temp at the rudder pedals was about 50 degrees. After a few hours of that your feet will be very cold. There is a blank switch area just below the PFD/ND dials that I'm told was the electric floor heat option that we did not order. Don't know if other 320s have that option installed. At least with all the vents open on our older planes the cockpit db is almost 90. Just as loud at the gate as it is in cruise.
12-08-2017, 12:44 PM
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The old Braniff A320s (2-digit serial numbers with A1 engines) had switches for floor heaters. Of the 3 or 4 I flew, I don't think they did anything. Toward the end they were relegated to short routes and at the very end, they were sent to CLT to shuttle back and forth to Florida...which made perfect sense because they had the absolute worst air conditioning.
12-10-2017, 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by qball
Many of the DAL 320s are over 20 years old. We put a thermometer at the rudder pedals with the cockpit temp cranked as high as it would go. The temp at the rudder pedals was about 50 degrees. After a few hours of that your feet will be very cold. There is a blank switch area just below the PFD/ND dials that I'm told was the electric floor heat option that we did not order. Don't know if other 320s have that option installed. At least with all the vents open on our older planes the cockpit db is almost 90. Just as loud at the gate as it is in cruise.
12-10-2017, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
Flew a plane with the fans inop. It was as quiet as an MD80 cockpit.
12-11-2017, 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Ar Pilot
ITT we have Airbus pilots complaining about cockpit noise. -Signed, a deaf 737 pilot.
12-11-2017, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
I think I’m going deaf flying the bus. I believe the 737 guys who wear headsets do better long term.
09-15-2022, 08:33 AM
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Follow-up: Cold Flight Deck, A320 family
It's been a few years since this thread was active, and during that time some airlines have installed a successful low-cost solution to address pilot concern. Unfortunately, other airlines have not.
Many individuals familiar with the processes involved, have indicated that it "...won't get the attention needed unless pilots speak up".
It's certainly a health-related issue and pilots should voice their concerns in order to force action on the airlines. Knowing that a simple low-cost solution is readily available to address the extreme cold temps, it really seems inexcusable that this hasn't been resolved across all airlines on their 320 fleets.
Does anyone know of any other progress on this issue? What options are available to pilots to express their concerns?
Many individuals familiar with the processes involved, have indicated that it "...won't get the attention needed unless pilots speak up".
It's certainly a health-related issue and pilots should voice their concerns in order to force action on the airlines. Knowing that a simple low-cost solution is readily available to address the extreme cold temps, it really seems inexcusable that this hasn't been resolved across all airlines on their 320 fleets.
Does anyone know of any other progress on this issue? What options are available to pilots to express their concerns?
09-15-2022, 09:19 AM
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It's never bothered me but if you can't get your company to spring for an expensive upgrade this kind of thing works well. Looks like has enough battery for any 320/321 leg. As long as you keep your toes warm, the blood flow doesn't get restricted for cold adaption so everything south of your belt is good. I've used similar gadgets in colder environments than a bus cockpit.
https://www.amazon.com/4000mAh-Batte...75756363&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/4000mAh-Batte...75756363&psc=1
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