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Old 02-28-2018 | 05:40 PM
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It all boils down to this: do you, or don’t you, want to wear a hat for the rest of your career....?

All joking aside... Great choice to have. Both companies will give you a great career. Contracts come & go... today’s winner could be tomorrow’s loser. You won’t know for sure until you retire.

Since you will be commuting from a city where neither airline has a base, my suggestion is to go with the first class date.

Yes, your seniority will go much further here at AA...but I also have to say that Delta has a much better company culture and better management/labor relations (at least, today... who knows 5, 10 years from now?)

Good luck and congrats!
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Old 02-28-2018 | 06:21 PM
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Good problem to have.. Based on retirements, I'd go with "something special in the air"... Prestige wise, Delta. Have friends at both and they love it.
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Old 02-28-2018 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ipdanno
WN is growing in STL. So, take whichever CJO that will get you the 737 type first, then update your app for WN.
You'll be in the clover! 😜
Stuck flying a guppy for one's entire career? That's akin to the fourth Circle of Hell in Dante's Inferno.
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Old 02-28-2018 | 08:28 PM
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Seems like a no brainer. Delta for profit sharing and better work rules.

I don't work for either, so no dog in the fight.
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Old 02-28-2018 | 09:18 PM
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Great choice to have. The correct answer will come on the day you retire.
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Old 02-28-2018 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy
Stuck flying a guppy for one's entire career? That's akin to the fourth Circle of Hell in Dante's Inferno.
Well...the culture at AA has some refining to do. I spent nearly a decade at Eagle and had no desire to repeat the mentality at AA. I’m sure it’s better, but my regional days killed the desire.

So far WN has been fantastic to me.

Like others have said, it’s a good problem to have. Don’t wait too long though—seniority is the name of the game.
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Old 02-28-2018 | 10:29 PM
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Delta has hired something like 3500 in last 4 years mostly younger folks. You will never pass them on the list. AA has not hit the big numbers yet. I would go AA.
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Old 03-01-2018 | 03:42 AM
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AA since I commute out of STL too. 😁

Seriously though, Delta is a great place to work. I have no idea how many AA has hired recently, but the point about the massive numbers of new hires at Delta is a good one and would certainly factor into my decision.

Personally, I’m happy I’m at Delta and not AA. Staring down 4500 newhires @ Delta vs _____ @ AA, might sway my decision as a new guy though. Depends on your age I guess. Aside from that, I’d say Delta.
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Old 03-01-2018 | 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by MoonShot
AA since I commute out of STL too. ��

Seriously though, Delta is a great place to work. I have no idea how many AA has hired recently, but the point about the massive numbers of new hires at Delta is a good one and would certainly factor into my decision.

Personally, I’m happy I’m at Delta and not AA. Staring down 4500 newhires @ Delta vs _____ @ AA, might sway my decision as a new guy though. Depends on your age I guess. Aside from that, I’d say Delta.
I feel like the employee group is much happier at DL than pretty much anywhere else. As far as the hiring, on the one hand it does mean you won't be as senior at the end of your career, but how about the career overall? I think anyone starting at Delta can to expect to have a good career, regardless of their age.

Something that no one has pointed out, it seems that AA has some interesting nonrev priorities now. At least the WO regionals are on equal priority to mainline and it's first come first served (check in time) for priority? I imagine that really changes the dynamics of commuting if flying when check in opens has that big of an impact on your chances of getting on the flight. Add in the talk of jumpseat priority changing to seniority and commuting sounds like a lot more stress than at DL.
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Old 03-01-2018 | 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by cactusmike
Great choice to have. The correct answer will come on the day you retire.
^^^^^^^
This.

Past performance does not guarantee future results.

That being said, I would put an emphasis on company culture and company stability over seniority. Seniority is a wonderful thing but going to work in an adversarial environment is no fun at all.

Make the best choice based on information available today, that’s the best you can do. There is no crystal ball. And over time, resist the temptation to keep track of where you would have been had you chosen the other company.

Best of luck!
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