CJO @ Delta & AA - What would you do?
03-02-2018 | 03:13 AM
#33
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DAL pros:
Better compensation
Better work rules
No east vs. west drama
Significantly less debt
Less regional flying
AA pros:
Less hiring since 2014 and more retirements in the near future
More international flying
Leather jacket and no hat or double breasted coat
Post back after you retire and let us know which was the right choice
Better compensation
Better work rules
No east vs. west drama
Significantly less debt
Less regional flying
AA pros:
Less hiring since 2014 and more retirements in the near future
More international flying
Leather jacket and no hat or double breasted coat
Post back after you retire and let us know which was the right choice
03-02-2018 | 03:21 AM
#34
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Anyways, American all the way. 52% of the seniority list gone in the next 9 years. That is a fact.
03-02-2018 | 08:07 AM
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As to the OP, go to DAL. Better contract, better union, better pilot group, better work rules, and higher pay.
APA is a weak union with too many terrorist factions holding QOL hostage for their special interest items. It won't get better until the top half of the list retires. AA has no issues taking advantage of this group.
In the long run, DAL is stronger financially than AA. You may see more retirements at AA, but that may not matter in the long run.
03-02-2018 | 10:00 AM
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Maybe a delta guy can confirm this, it sounds like premium trips are plentiful. American goes to great lengths to avoid premium. Delta seems like a better job right now. AA has the seniority advantage but I think deltas better contract makes up for it. Plus delta has faster upgrade and the commute from stl is probably easier at delta.
It is a completely different job living in base. If you can move to any of the bases go to the corresponding airline and don’t look back.
It is a completely different job living in base. If you can move to any of the bases go to the corresponding airline and don’t look back.
03-02-2018 | 10:51 AM
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Maybe a delta guy can confirm this, it sounds like premium trips are plentiful. American goes to great lengths to avoid premium. Delta seems like a better job right now. AA has the seniority advantage but I think deltas better contract makes up for it. Plus delta has faster upgrade and the commute from stl is probably easier at delta.
It is a completely different job living in base. If you can move to any of the bases go to the corresponding airline and don’t look back.
It is a completely different job living in base. If you can move to any of the bases go to the corresponding airline and don’t look back.
03-02-2018 | 10:54 AM
#39
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Hourly rates are the same. Profit sharing at DL is the only thing better. That should be addressed in the next contract in a year or two so the compensation will pretty much be equal.
What work rules are better? AA will have average calendar day soon. That was the big issue and its fixed.
More regional flying at aa could be seen as a good thing if the pilot shortage causes them to bring regional flying in house. AA would need a lot more bodies. Delta has brought a lot in house already so the hiring for that won’t help a new guy bc they’re all senior to them.
What work rules are better? AA will have average calendar day soon. That was the big issue and its fixed.
More regional flying at aa could be seen as a good thing if the pilot shortage causes them to bring regional flying in house. AA would need a lot more bodies. Delta has brought a lot in house already so the hiring for that won’t help a new guy bc they’re all senior to them.
Touting more regional flying as a plus?
03-02-2018 | 11:00 AM
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Minimum days off for reserves is 12/13 at AA. Think that’s the same at DL. For lineholders it’s not a factor bc you get 5:15 a day once ACD kicks in.
Premium flying is available at AA. Apparently a lot less premium at dL now re the poster above. Edge to DL.
Did you not read the sentence after I wrote more regional flying could be a plus at AA? A lot of it has come back in house at dl already so the hiring for that has already happened. If AA is forced to do the same they’d have to hire more than they’re planning. That’s a plus for the guys hired before that happens.
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