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03-16-2018 | 03:58 PM

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You're making my point for me. None of those guys saw deregulation and the following carnage coming. Maybe the next 50 years will be nothing but roses but more than likely something will happen to make all the know-it-alls scratch their heads and say WTF was THAT?

50 years is a long time.... Amazon could invent a transporter machine next year and everything would change...... or age 75 for retirement, or cabotage allowed, or martian attack. Capitalism ensures that companies are continuously looking at ways to do things cheaper/better/with less labor so this job (at the major level at least) will always have potential wolves nipping at your heels.
People need to fly from LA to Boston for $99 each way!

03-18-2018 | 07:50 AM

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Wait until the public accepts a single pilot up front. I'd bet a beer it won't take 50 years.

03-18-2018 | 10:07 AM

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Wait until the public accepts a single pilot up front. I'd bet a beer it won't take 50 years.

The status quo of two pilots upfront is safe for another 20-30 years especially on the PAX front. I’d bet a case of beer on that.

03-18-2018 | 04:10 PM

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The status quo of two pilots upfront is safe for another 20-30 years especially on the PAX front. I’d bet a case of beer on that.

With FedEx and UPS recently spending billions on new 70s/80s technology jets, and no single pilot jet of that scale out there. You can bet it won’t hit cargo in 20-30 years either. It’s more about proven reliability than cutting edge in cargo.

03-18-2018 | 05:50 PM

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Wait until the public accepts a single pilot up front. I'd bet a beer it won't take 50 years.

The economic incentive really only exists when going from 2 pilots up front to none. Or so I’ve been told.

03-18-2018 | 06:44 PM

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The economic incentive really only exists when going from 2 pilots up front to none. Or so I’ve been told.

And you’re still going to need pilots, they’d just not be in the plane, and maybe monitoring a few planes at a time. Another example, RPA’s in the Air Force are not “drones” they are “remotely piloted” and they have not just a pilot but a sensor operator, so what 1 guy does in the F16 is done by 2 people in an RPA. I just don’t see this as a major cost savings, not for a long time at least.

03-20-2018 | 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by stlmikey

I got extremely lucky and recently got a CJO with Delta & American, one week apart. I never thought I'd be in this position to have the option but need to make a decision soon. I will likely be commuting from STL, which neither airline has a crew base, so that's not much of a factor at the moment. Main deciding factors are QOL / days off, commutability, and employee morale. Any advice or opinions are very much appreciated.

Delta for sure