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Old 04-03-2018 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by stlmikey
I got extremely lucky and recently got a CJO with Delta & American, one week apart. I never thought I'd be in this position to have the option but need to make a decision soon. I will likely be commuting from STL, which neither airline has a crew base, so that's not much of a factor at the moment. Main deciding factors are QOL / days off, commutability, and employee morale. Any advice or opinions are very much appreciated.
So have you made a decision yet?
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Old 04-03-2018 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Sniper66
Delta hands down
If it was me I would go AA. Delta has been hiring a massive amount of pilots over the last 4 years. AA is just starting to ramp up. Over 7,000 retirements in the next 10 years at AA.
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Old 04-04-2018 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by propbandit
So have you made a decision yet?
Yes, I went with AA. It was a really tough call to make but for my long term plans AA's bases and number of retirements played a big factor. I'm optimistic the contract differences will average out over the years and know that either airline is going to be a great place to work. I really do appreciate everyone's input in this thread.
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Old 04-04-2018 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by stlmikey
Yes, I went with AA. It was a really tough call to make but for my long term plans AA's bases and number of retirements played a big factor. I'm optimistic the contract differences will average out over the years and know that either airline is going to be a great place to work. I really do appreciate everyone's input in this thread.
Congratulations......
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Old 04-04-2018 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by stlmikey
Yes, I went with AA. It was a really tough call to make but for my long term plans AA's bases and number of retirements played a big factor. I'm optimistic the contract differences will average out over the years and know that either airline is going to be a great place to work. I really do appreciate everyone's input in this thread.
Good decision
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Old 04-04-2018 | 03:49 PM
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Old 04-10-2018 | 06:51 PM
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Thread bump.

I have found myself in the same position as the OP. AA vs DAL.

I am a commuter to both airlines as I will not be moving to a domicile.

Can someone give any insight into where seniority numbers lie for each airline, specifically:

1. Junior WB FO

2. Junior NB CA 737/A320/1 (I'd prefer to exclude the 190/MD-80/88 since they're going away for both airlines)

3. Junior WB CA

Thanks in advance.
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Old 04-10-2018 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by propbandit
Thread bump.

I have found myself in the same position as the OP. AA vs DAL.

I am a commuter to both airlines as I will not be moving to a domicile.

Can someone give any insight into where seniority numbers lie for each airline, specifically:

1. Junior WB FO

2. Junior NB CA 737/A320/1 (I'd prefer to exclude the 190/MD-80/88 since they're going away for both airlines)

3. Junior WB CA

Thanks in advance.
As an AA guy, there are a lot of "if's" with that request. We haven't hit the massive movement for retirements yet, but even in the last bid run, it looks like it's happening. Widebody CA was stagnant forever, and then "boom" it moves 500+ numbers junior in 1 bid. WB FO? Again, a lot of stuff hitting now. Former USAir CLT and PHL CA slots are senior as ####. When that hits along with the 787 replacement, it tends to drive stuff real junior. There is another dynamic. IF the CA job ends up going real junior, does it suck or is the FO job that good? Could be a premium/green slip pay issue or a suck CA reserve job.

Wish I had the crystal ball. Trying to pick the right horse is a choice with some risk. In 1990 I sat at 2am with a fellow FE newhire who was junior to me and 30 years older. Shaking his head, he said, "Yup, 1966, I had 3 job offers, Delta, American and Branniff".

If there was a APC message board in 1990, 98.5% of the posts would have told me to ditch UPS go to AA.

Good luck with your choice. Not sure how I would I handle a 200# at Brown vs my current number equal to the GDP of 1/2 the worlds nations.
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Old 04-11-2018 | 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Dolphinflyer
As an AA guy, there are a lot of "if's" with that request. ///>>>

Wish I had the crystal ball. Trying to pick the right horse is a choice with some risk. In 1990 I sat at 2am with a fellow FE newhire who was junior to me and 30 years older. Shaking his head, he said, "Yup, 1966, I had 3 job offers, Delta, American and Branniff".

If there was a APC message board in 1990, 98.5% of the posts would have told me to ditch UPS go to AA.

Good luck with your choice. Not sure how I would I handle a 200# at Brown vs my current number equal to the GDP of 1/2 the worlds nations.
1) Why did 1990 classmate pick Branniff ?
2) Was this 1990 class UPS or AAL ? (AAL actually hired a 55 plus guy?)

3) Not sure if you went to UPS first, then left for AAL, or if you had simultaneous offers from both. Either way, I think you'd handle having a low 3 digit number at UPS quite well. I also recognize that not everyone is willing to wade through the horse manure for the possibility of green grass either.
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Old 04-11-2018 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by vroll1800
1) Why did 1990 classmate pick Branniff ?
I think that was in 1966...
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