AA or UA or SW
#61
AA or UA or SW
In his defense, he said "basically." But I agree with your hedge; you can never really know in this business.
#62
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Position: CRJ FO
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I am no where near qualified and have a long way to go before even being worthy to read this thread. However, I commend those who provided substantial feedback to the OP and those with similar questions. It is rare to read such a helpful thread that has not been hijacked with negativity.
#63
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Joined APC: Sep 2018
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I am no where near qualified and have a long way to go before even being worthy to read this thread. However, I commend those who provided substantial feedback to the OP and those with similar questions. It is rare to read such a helpful thread that has not been hijacked with negativity.
Any tidbits from AA perspective
Thanks all
#64
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I am no where near qualified and have a long way to go before even being worthy to read this thread. However, I commend those who provided substantial feedback to the OP and those with similar questions. It is rare to read such a helpful thread that has not been hijacked with negativity.
The negativity you speak of comes from a sense of frustration in that once you find your "career" airline, after about 12 years, the only way you get a raise is through section 6 negotiations. Top that with EVERYONE has slightly different priorities and pilots will complain about something that others find great.
In my company, some pilots want to be able to work on/sell back vacation. Some pilots want to keep vacation, vacation, and increase it.
Some want more pay and hours each month, some want to drop down to near 0 as much as possible.
The negativity is a manifestation of the frustration when some pilots don't think their priorities are the same as the union's and/or company.
Think there is negativity now...... wait until/when/if there is an economic slowdown/downturn and watch the arrows fly as pay/schedules/lack of progression is affected.
Best of luck as you enter the industry and keep an open mind when you hear complaints. Remember that every single bitter/disillusioned pilot you fly with once you enter this industry was at least at one point the happiest/most content pilot ever and something happened to cause them such personal angst.
#65
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full of luv - I was with you until you said the new hires are all happy. Coworker talking about how bitter a classmate was on day one. New hire dinner? Bitterness overflowed. Everyone’s thinking “you’re young, you got it made, you’re going to be bitter for a long time.” They nailed it. He’s still miserable. Twenty or twenty five years and counting.
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#67
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full of luv - I was with you until you said the new hires are all happy. Coworker talking about how bitter a classmate was on day one. New hire dinner? Bitterness overflowed. Everyone’s thinking “you’re young, you got it made, you’re going to be bitter for a long time.” They nailed it. He’s still miserable. Twenty or twenty five years and counting.
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I was very content in my life and career until I came back to Merika. The amount of bitterness, resent and frustration here is alarming. It’s also toxic and contagious. I haven’t gone out with a crew this whole month because I didn’t want to further encourage the spew or get spewed on. Pub and a Tom Clancy book in a corner is where I’ve been. Nice to know you, see you at show time Skipper and IRO angry pants.