Question Dignity and Respect?
#21
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#22
Hmm, have things gone south under Larry?
I was a ramper in IAH for CAL. My supervisor came to me, gave me my 10 year pin, shook my hand and said thank you for your hard work, all in front of my crew no less. That was just after Gordo departed, and just before I got my first flying gig.
Either rampers have more respect for one another, or LK wants to make CAL as warm and fuzzy as AA.
I was a ramper in IAH for CAL. My supervisor came to me, gave me my 10 year pin, shook my hand and said thank you for your hard work, all in front of my crew no less. That was just after Gordo departed, and just before I got my first flying gig.
Either rampers have more respect for one another, or LK wants to make CAL as warm and fuzzy as AA.
#23
Read "Flying the Line Vol 2" by George Hopkins, which chronicles ALPA history, see page 174, last paragraph. Oct 31st 1985 Judge Roberts entered an Order and Award on Lorenzo to reinstate striking pilots with seniority, or paying severance pay or allowing striking pilots to litigate after pilots waived thier rights to seniority or severance pay. 1987 came nowhere close to the strike. Please get your facts right ...sorry no parade for you either
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It's not about me being sensitive, it is about all the BS they mouth at our airline about dignity and respect etc etc.
Like Prater says it's time to take it back, not just at CAL the entire industry. It's not just about pay and benefits as a whole in our industry Captain's authority and overall respect for all pilots has gone down the toilet. One contract at a time we do need to take it back. Do you think this would have happened thirty years ago? Don't fall into the trap and allow our careers to continue to be degraded just because it seems in todays world it's acceptable or the norm.
I do my job today as I did yesterday and I will do tomorrow as a professional. I don't take this issue to seriously it is what it is but it is a slap in the face never the less and it motivates me even more to job my union job and help our pilots negotiate a real contract 08.
Like Prater says it's time to take it back, not just at CAL the entire industry. It's not just about pay and benefits as a whole in our industry Captain's authority and overall respect for all pilots has gone down the toilet. One contract at a time we do need to take it back. Do you think this would have happened thirty years ago? Don't fall into the trap and allow our careers to continue to be degraded just because it seems in todays world it's acceptable or the norm.
I do my job today as I did yesterday and I will do tomorrow as a professional. I don't take this issue to seriously it is what it is but it is a slap in the face never the less and it motivates me even more to job my union job and help our pilots negotiate a real contract 08.
I was just on the Regionals thread and saw a thread titled Republic Promo. In a nutshell, it is a compilation of videos taken by what appears to be an E-170 f/o and placed on youtube.
I don't mean to sound anal-retentive about this, but when I see videos like that being posted on youtube, all I can think about is some kid in a pilot's uniform with Shiny-Jet Syndrome with a "this is so cool" attitude.
#26
What the hell are you talking about you uninformed POS.
First off our strike went from November 1983 to October 1985.
Secondly the pilot that wrote this heads up our strike preparation committee and is one of the finest Union activists we have.
Your post reminds me of this turd-ball UAL Pilot I once had the miss-pleasure of meeting at a hotel by LAX.
We used to layover at this flea-bag hotel called the Viscount that had non-existent van service. One day, a full-term striker Captain, A People Express First Officer and myself a lowly 1987 hire caught the hotel van from a neighboring property, As we exited the bus, this fat-slob in a United uniform is waiting to get on the van and waits until we were at least 50 yards down the road and yells at the top of his bovine lungs "SCABS".
I immediately dropped my bags and turned around with the intent of confronting said swine when my Captain grabbed me by the arm and said "Don't bother, that guy will never know what its like to walk a picket line for 2 years and ain't worth breaking a sweat for".
Words of wisdom from a man whom I admire to this day. Try and remember that over 90% of us at CAL didn't cross a picket line and many of us walked the walk and talked the talk for almost two years.
Last edited by 757Driver; 04-16-2007 at 05:38 AM.
#29
I'm sorry if I offend anybody or generalize but I don't have the past knowledge and experience like you guys have in aviation since I'm in my 20s and only 440tt
But in my opinion LCC pilots are the present scabs of the industry. I hate to see how these pilots (especially B6 pilots) diminish our career by accepting not representation and in contrast accepting contracts that drive down the salaries and work rules of the industry. And the most funny and sad at the same time is accepting to clean the airplane after each flight. (I know many of you are familiar with the famous blue gloves).
So LCCescapee please look your back before you look someones else's.
But in my opinion LCC pilots are the present scabs of the industry. I hate to see how these pilots (especially B6 pilots) diminish our career by accepting not representation and in contrast accepting contracts that drive down the salaries and work rules of the industry. And the most funny and sad at the same time is accepting to clean the airplane after each flight. (I know many of you are familiar with the famous blue gloves).
So LCCescapee please look your back before you look someones else's.
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