What you state is exactly why mil guys get hired. Most have fantastic resumes on the non flying side including masters degrees, good to excellent performance in college, lots of leadership schools combined with lots of actual leadership experience. I find many civilian pilots focus on the flying and neglect to build out the rest of their resume.

 

The guy flying Denver to Gillette probably has more practical experience and more and more skill than some guy who flew a fighter a couple hours a month.
Honestly why? We just fly from point A to B. This career requires a very specific set of skills.

 

Yeah, what good is the military? (Rhetorical question)


This is kind of long, but worth the watch. Funny in a smh way.


Marines in Berkeley - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart (Video Clip) | Comedy Central

 

I never said that. What I did say is that military training is standardized and I know what I'm getting when I interview a person.

I'm never quite sure with a civilian background candidate. Its expensive to get a guy in class only to find out he can't cut the mustard either in the sim or on IOE.

 

lmao.

Most of the guys who can't cut it are .mil guys with no 121 experience. RJ drivers have been doing the exact same check ride, in transport jets in and out of the the exact same airports with the exact same passengers in the same paint job as mainline for decades.

I have yet to encounter a .mil pilot that impresses me with their awesome Uncle Sam flying skills.

 

You literally said you couldn’t expect civilian guys to understand a simple fact.
You don’t think training at ExpressJet, Endeavor, Air Wisconsin, Envoy, Republic... UND, Purdue, Embry-Riddle, Auburn, WMU etc is standard?!? Hahah, okay. Sure.
I understand perfectly well why military pilots are desired. I also understand why certain 141 universities train pilots exceptionally well. It’s not a pi$$ing match to me.

 

Ladies and gentlemen, can we all agree the best pilots are the ones that volunteer on their off days by passing out Christmas gifts in their uniforms and then posting the photos on Facebook to make sure everyone knows how nice they are?

Those are the only ones I want in that cockpit when the no2 engine pops out of Bogotá.

 

Do the math. Take a pay scale and actually run through it. Any time someone's seniority is reset, the new employer benefits. Initial training is NOT that expensive, and recurrent training is the same whether someone has 6 months or 20 years in the seat. But the difference in AVERAGE PAY between being an FO for half of his career and for 30 years is huge. Bringing in fresh OLD blood keeps the percentage of pilots earning the highest rates as low as possible and also keeps the youngsters laboring in the "C" scale of the regional as long as possible. If the major has a wholly owned, it's a win-win.

Which doesn't even count the fact that with a second income (military pension) military retirees are less concerned about money than their peers, less often pro-Union, and with TRICARE to back up the basic company medical, are going to be less demanding of benefits. But like I said, just do the math. Go to the payscales and figure out the lifetime payroll difference for hiring two 45 year olds vs one 25 year old to get 40 pilot years of flying. Assume the initial type-rating costs $125K (and you know it doesn't or seat locks would be longer). It's not even close to the same cost per pilot year.

 

You know the standards for civilian too, it's called acs/pts.

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I like how troops were sent to the border to help with the migrant invader situation and the entire country seemed to go up in arms about troops being stationed at the border. Yeah, how dare our troops go and defend our physical boundary! I think we as a nation are just used to overseas wars where troops get killed for oil, Israel security, and the military industrial complex that requires a good war every decade to justify military budgets and spending.