I'd agree, talk about an impressive startup track record in this industry.

As far as recruiting pilots, I don't think DN will have a problem considering the second airline he started created well over 100 millionaire pilots very quickly from the first few new hire classes with the stock compensation package (WS had an IPO 3 years after startup). He has a history of taking care of his people.

One of the individuals who is starting this LCC using the XTRA Airways AOC, told me that they do plan on offering competitive wages with other LCCs/majors. They plan on doing point to point from secondary airports.

They do have experienced members on their team who have experience in starting airlines in the past, including Southwest, jetBlue, and Allegiant. I'm not sure if there's enough room for two startups in the same year in this country, but who knows.

Oh, I think they’ll get pilots alright. They’ll have to pay Spirit or at least Frontier equivalent wages to do it, but they will get pilots. New type that is going to be flown by a couple of legacies will have no difficulty attracting young FOs who might just be getting in at the start of something bid that will put them up near the top of a seniority ladder long before they ever expected to get there. Experienced captains are going to be a little more difficult to recruit, but show them the bonuses and DECs will come.

Undercapitallzed.

Negative... Allegiant.

They had a crew base in Vegas, but the airline as you say was based in Tempe.

AW didn't become part of US or AA, AW bought them. Say what you will about Doug but he did single-handedly take over one third of the US legacy airline market. AW DBA AA.

AWA had a Vegas hub.

Allegiant is based in Vegas. One of the few 90s startups still flying.

The CEO of this new venture is Andrew Levy who was a cofounder of Allegiant and served a short stint at United after that. He pioneered the basic economy and other ULCC like projects over there. I would not bet against this guy. If I were Allegiant management I'd be keeping an eye on this. Levy ain't no dummy.

From a business standpoint I completely agree. From a pilot perspective I may be less inclined to go all in... Allegiant has come a long way, but let’s not forget they got to where they are after years of poor pay, and even poorer maintenance practices. Not sure I’d want to go through those growing pains. Then again, it will all depend on many circumstances...

Moxy however would be a different story for me, JMHO.