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dawgdriver 04-02-2019 11:49 AM

New ULCC?
 
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.wbur.org/hereandnow/2019/04/02/new-low-cost-carrier-xtra-airways

Irishblackbird 04-02-2019 03:12 PM

If anyone goes to one of these new start ups, I just hope the new ULCC gets a strong foot hold before the economy turns. Especially if the target demographic is secondary markets and leisure travel. There's a huge grave yard full of failed start ups. I also wonder how they are going to compete for their work force these next few years as peak retirement hits. Going to be interesting to see what kind of compensation they can offer against other ULCC and even some regional's that have upped the ante.

captjns 04-02-2019 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by Irishblackbird (Post 2794828)
If anyone goes to one of these new start ups, I just hope the new ULCC gets a strong foot hold before the economy turns. Especially if the target demographic is secondary markets and leisure travel. There's a huge grave yard full of failed start ups. I also wonder how they are going to compete for their work force these next few years as peak retirement hits. Going to be interesting to see what kind of compensation they can offer against other ULCC and even some regional's that have upped the ante.

Can somebody remind me the name of that ULCC that started in Las Vegas?:rolleyes:. Wasn’t that blue potato chip carrier out of JFK a LCC?

I’ll wager that Moxy will do just fine.

MudhammedCJ 04-02-2019 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by captjns (Post 2794902)
Can somebody remind me the name of that ULCC that started in Las Vegas?:rolleyes:. Wasn’t that blue potato chip carrier out of JFK a LCC?

I’ll wager that Moxy will do just fine.

National? :)

full of luv 04-02-2019 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by captjns (Post 2794902)
Can somebody remind me the name of that ULCC that started in Las Vegas?:rolleyes:. Wasn’t that blue potato chip carrier out of JFK a LCC?

I’ll wager that Moxy will do just fine.

Your thinking of Reno Air (except it was Reno, not Vegas)... lasted about 7 years but was bought out by AA in the late 90's.

Or maybe America West, they were Vegas based for quite a while before becoming part of US Air and then.... AA.

KC135 04-02-2019 07:45 PM

B6 is definitely not a LCC. Their first class/mint pods even have a sliding door, fancy food options and tv's in the back of the seats in coach. Average ticket pricing is above LCC level.

Aero1900 04-02-2019 08:04 PM

It will be interesting to see how difficult it is to staff these new start up with pilots. There's a huge difference today vs when airlines like Skybus started.

I think there will be some draw for the getting in on the ground floor thing, but with such massive hiring occurring and good contacts right now, I suspect these start ups will struggle to hire good candidates

tomgoodman 04-02-2019 08:07 PM


Originally Posted by MudhammedCJ (Post 2794912)
National? :)

Yes, they lasted about three years. APC member “Skyhigh” flew for them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation...%E2%80%932002)

rickair7777 04-02-2019 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by Aero1900 (Post 2794996)
It will be interesting to see how difficult it is to staff these new start up with pilots. There's a huge difference today vs when airlines like Skybus started.

I think there will be some draw for the getting in on the ground floor thing, but with such massive hiring occurring and good contacts right now, I suspect these start ups will struggle to hire good candidates

My suspicion too. Anybody with the kind of training/leadership/management experience you need for startup core cadre is going to have better options, or they can just stay at the regional in a pretty good place, no need to risk all their seniority for a startup with no union, no workrules, and almost inevitably crappy pay.

SUX4U 04-02-2019 08:46 PM


Originally Posted by full of luv (Post 2794980)
Or maybe America West, they were Vegas based for quite a while before becoming part of US Air and then.... AA.

Vegas? You mean Tempe, AZ?


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