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Old 04-02-2019 | 11:49 AM
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Old 04-02-2019 | 03:12 PM
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If anyone goes to one of these new start ups, I just hope the new ULCC gets a strong foot hold before the economy turns. Especially if the target demographic is secondary markets and leisure travel. There's a huge grave yard full of failed start ups. I also wonder how they are going to compete for their work force these next few years as peak retirement hits. Going to be interesting to see what kind of compensation they can offer against other ULCC and even some regional's that have upped the ante.
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Old 04-02-2019 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Irishblackbird
If anyone goes to one of these new start ups, I just hope the new ULCC gets a strong foot hold before the economy turns. Especially if the target demographic is secondary markets and leisure travel. There's a huge grave yard full of failed start ups. I also wonder how they are going to compete for their work force these next few years as peak retirement hits. Going to be interesting to see what kind of compensation they can offer against other ULCC and even some regional's that have upped the ante.
Can somebody remind me the name of that ULCC that started in Las Vegas?. Wasn’t that blue potato chip carrier out of JFK a LCC?

I’ll wager that Moxy will do just fine.
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Old 04-02-2019 | 05:47 PM
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Can somebody remind me the name of that ULCC that started in Las Vegas?. Wasn’t that blue potato chip carrier out of JFK a LCC?

I’ll wager that Moxy will do just fine.
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Old 04-02-2019 | 07:39 PM
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Can somebody remind me the name of that ULCC that started in Las Vegas?. Wasn’t that blue potato chip carrier out of JFK a LCC?

I’ll wager that Moxy will do just fine.
Your thinking of Reno Air (except it was Reno, not Vegas)... lasted about 7 years but was bought out by AA in the late 90's.

Or maybe America West, they were Vegas based for quite a while before becoming part of US Air and then.... AA.
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Old 04-02-2019 | 07:45 PM
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B6 is definitely not a LCC. Their first class/mint pods even have a sliding door, fancy food options and tv's in the back of the seats in coach. Average ticket pricing is above LCC level.
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Old 04-02-2019 | 08:04 PM
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It will be interesting to see how difficult it is to staff these new start up with pilots. There's a huge difference today vs when airlines like Skybus started.

I think there will be some draw for the getting in on the ground floor thing, but with such massive hiring occurring and good contacts right now, I suspect these start ups will struggle to hire good candidates
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Old 04-02-2019 | 08:07 PM
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National?
Yes, they lasted about three years. APC member “Skyhigh” flew for them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation...%E2%80%932002)
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Old 04-02-2019 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
It will be interesting to see how difficult it is to staff these new start up with pilots. There's a huge difference today vs when airlines like Skybus started.

I think there will be some draw for the getting in on the ground floor thing, but with such massive hiring occurring and good contacts right now, I suspect these start ups will struggle to hire good candidates
My suspicion too. Anybody with the kind of training/leadership/management experience you need for startup core cadre is going to have better options, or they can just stay at the regional in a pretty good place, no need to risk all their seniority for a startup with no union, no workrules, and almost inevitably crappy pay.
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Old 04-02-2019 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by full of luv
Or maybe America West, they were Vegas based for quite a while before becoming part of US Air and then.... AA.
Vegas? You mean Tempe, AZ?
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