I was on a low approach to RWY 29 at KMSY when a Delta jet taxied across the approach end on Sierra taxiway on the way to RWY 02. It is in our SOP to clear both directions on taxiways and runways as you mention in your post above. It was obvious to us that the CA never took a look out his window to see an airplane with all its' lights on and landing gear down coming down final.
Head on a swivel and always expect the unexpected.
We saw him coming towards the runways from some distance out and were talking about whether he was going to stop because he had a hearty dose of steam down the taxiway it seemed.

Someone's got a chip on their shoulder. I think Delta has probably hired plenty of high quality RJ pilots. But not you apparently - could be the entitled attitude. Nah.... it's obviously their problem.

If busy airports overwhelmed you at first, that's okay, it happens. Thank goodness you found the opportunity to taxi around them for thousands of hours until you were able to figure it out.

Anyone know what a "military Roger" is? I wasn't aware the DOD had a monopoly on the use of the phrase. However, it is referenced 12 times in the current AIM, which, last I checked wasn't published via any military source.

Apparently this video is cut off. When she says hold short, that was the second instruction to hold short of 22R. The first time is cut off/not included in the video.

Actually this is not really the case if I remember JFK correctly (not based there). The tower that clears them to cross 22R on 119.1 is the 22L tower controller, while the tower that clears the plane for takeoff is obviously 22R tower controller, but on 123.9. So you don’t have the SA hearing the 22R controller clearing another plane to takeoff while you’re crossing. I’ve never understood why JFK does this. Just about every other airport in the country one controller issues the crossing and takeoff clearances. This is a big factor and was just waiting to happen IMO.


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Varsity comes out of left field with his anti-military schtick no matter what the subject. Dude, let it go. I'm sorry that when you applied you got denied due to some kind of weird, disproportionate body measurements or because every officer recruiter you talked to got the impression that you might be sewing together a suit made out of human skin in your mom's basement. It's not our fault.

SEA does something similar. Regardless, if you know JFK is landing 22L, they're probably taking off 22R as well (and landing 22R as well). Part of every briefing should be how many runways you have to cross to get to the gate.

You gotta talk their language. If the tower lady had said, "Delta 300, knock it off, knock it off!"

Man those guys would have punched right through that intersection double time and then broken off on Alpha. :D

Yes but they thought they were cleared to cross 22R (though I didn’t hear them read that back). If you thought you were cleared to cross but then heard the tower say, “Delta 254 cleared for takeoff 22R” they may have hit the brakes. They obviously screwed up....but that may have saved their mistake.


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You wanna play that game? Here is an example from the regional side of a not so well stated clearance coupled with a lack of SA nearly causing a disaster. In the days before EGPWS, it could have been a hull loss. I can just imagine how you come across in an interview.

Incident: Skywest CRJ9 at Medford on Dec 24th 2017, GPWS alert on approach

Sorry, military pilots generally don’t use “roger” especially fighter pilots. It’s not taught and not in any manuals I’ve ever seen.