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#121
"So are you gonna drop your career of "airline pilot bashing"? Your comment at the end of your posts are false except to you and your personal choices."
Skyhigh has no credibility. He proves it with his opinion that SWA isn't a worthy career choice. How many would agree with that?
Skyhigh is a product of his self made circumstance....
Take that into consideration when you read his stuff.
On top of that, he posts in such a manner that he is afraid of people knowing where he lives. What does that tell you?
Skyhigh has no credibility. He proves it with his opinion that SWA isn't a worthy career choice. How many would agree with that?
Skyhigh is a product of his self made circumstance....
Take that into consideration when you read his stuff.
On top of that, he posts in such a manner that he is afraid of people knowing where he lives. What does that tell you?
#122
"So are you gonna drop your career of "airline pilot bashing"? Your comment at the end of your posts are false except to you and your personal choices."
Skyhigh has no credibility. He proves it with his opinion that SWA isn't a worthy career choice. How many would agree with that?
Skyhigh is a product of his self made circumstance....
Take that into consideration when you read his stuff.
Skyhigh has no credibility. He proves it with his opinion that SWA isn't a worthy career choice. How many would agree with that?
Skyhigh is a product of his self made circumstance....
Take that into consideration when you read his stuff.
Plumbers, cops, barbers and electricians have that option. They value where they live and the life style that benifit offers.
If pilots are so petty as to throw away almost everything that most others value in life in order to remain in the seat then what does that say about them?
The next thing to go is a wife and family.
SkyHigh
#123
Most any career choice should offer the applicant at least scant offering of benefits and compensation complementary to the sacrifices it took to get there. One of the most basic should be choice of where one lives.
Plumbers, cops, barbers and electricians have that option. They value where they live and the life style that benifit offers.
If pilots are so petty as to throw away almost everything that most others value in life in order to remain in the seat then what does that say about them?
The next thing to go is a wife and family.
SkyHigh
Plumbers, cops, barbers and electricians have that option. They value where they live and the life style that benifit offers.
If pilots are so petty as to throw away almost everything that most others value in life in order to remain in the seat then what does that say about them?
The next thing to go is a wife and family.
SkyHigh
I have NEVER lived where I was based. I always commuted. Worked out great for me. I'd guess the vast, VAST, majority would consider a job at SWA worth that.
That you didn't ain't no big thing....
That you bash the career and tell folks they should stay away IS a big thing. People need to know your background before they pay you any mind. Thanks for playing....
#124
Skyhigh it seems no matter what someone posts you answer back with the same garbage every time. Someone could ask you a question which has nothing to do with aviation and the answer would contain info on how bad airline careers are.
Get over it and get on with your life.
Get over it and get on with your life.
#125
Most any career choice should offer the applicant at least scant offering of benefits and compensation complementary to the sacrifices it took to get there. One of the most basic should be choice of where one lives.
Plumbers, cops, barbers and electricians have that option. They value where they live and the life style that benifit offers.
If pilots are so petty as to throw away almost everything that most others value in life in order to remain in the seat then what does that say about them?
The next thing to go is a wife and family.
SkyHigh
Plumbers, cops, barbers and electricians have that option. They value where they live and the life style that benifit offers.
If pilots are so petty as to throw away almost everything that most others value in life in order to remain in the seat then what does that say about them?
The next thing to go is a wife and family.
SkyHigh
Are the businessmen and women who are transferred in their careers to different locations also "so petty as to throw away almost everything that most others value in life in order to remain" in their job/profession?
Have you seen the power line contractors driving on the interstates to different jobs around the country, how about truckdrivers? Lifeblood of America.
Interesting limits you place on everyone elses career choices. Glad you are happy though, but seeing your posts is like seeing a mortician taunt pre-med and med students forums with something like "there are all gonna die anyway, someday, why bother"
#126
It takes a lot to get an aviation career off the ground. If one could expect to get on with a reputable major while still in their 20's I would say that it was a sound investment.
The reality is that after investing heavily in four years of college, flight school and years of early experience building most will be lucky to have ended up at a regional. The average age of new hires at the majors is now pushing 40.
Over the years, to anyone who has cared to look, the profession of airline pilot has sunk from prevalently well to do down to just OK. In most urban areas in our nation it is becoming common to hear of the 100K firefighter or cop. Pilots use to be rock star rich and had more time off as well.
Every trade has its heyday. Conditions will not improve. In the future the only way to find a real wage job will be to work overseas. Pilots will get to come home for a few weeks every two months to visit their families. I am sure that you will be there to tell me what a good deal that is as well.
I say that it is a poor career choice for most because it is. Anyone starting out today will have plenty of opportunities to fly a jet but it will be at a bus drivers wage, they will have no retirement to rely on and they will have to commute to work. YUK !!!
Call me negative or depressed if you like and I will in exchange call you delusional and unrealistic.
SkyHigh
The reality is that after investing heavily in four years of college, flight school and years of early experience building most will be lucky to have ended up at a regional. The average age of new hires at the majors is now pushing 40.
Over the years, to anyone who has cared to look, the profession of airline pilot has sunk from prevalently well to do down to just OK. In most urban areas in our nation it is becoming common to hear of the 100K firefighter or cop. Pilots use to be rock star rich and had more time off as well.
Every trade has its heyday. Conditions will not improve. In the future the only way to find a real wage job will be to work overseas. Pilots will get to come home for a few weeks every two months to visit their families. I am sure that you will be there to tell me what a good deal that is as well.
I say that it is a poor career choice for most because it is. Anyone starting out today will have plenty of opportunities to fly a jet but it will be at a bus drivers wage, they will have no retirement to rely on and they will have to commute to work. YUK !!!
Call me negative or depressed if you like and I will in exchange call you delusional and unrealistic.
SkyHigh
#127
So are military people "so petty as to throw away almost everything that most others value in life in order to remain" in service of their country?
Are the businessmen and women who are transferred in their careers to different locations also "so petty as to throw away almost everything that most others value in life in order to remain" in their job/profession?
Have you seen the power line contractors driving on the interstates to different jobs around the country, how about truckdrivers? Lifeblood of America.
Interesting limits you place on everyone elses career choices. Glad you are happy though, but seeing your posts is like seeing a mortician taunt pre-med and med students forums with something like "there are all gonna die anyway, someday, why bother"
Are the businessmen and women who are transferred in their careers to different locations also "so petty as to throw away almost everything that most others value in life in order to remain" in their job/profession?
Have you seen the power line contractors driving on the interstates to different jobs around the country, how about truckdrivers? Lifeblood of America.
Interesting limits you place on everyone elses career choices. Glad you are happy though, but seeing your posts is like seeing a mortician taunt pre-med and med students forums with something like "there are all gonna die anyway, someday, why bother"

A while ago I posted a thread on how a new private in the Army at 18 will do much better than a kid who blows 150K on college and flight training.
The military is great. Lots of careers require travel and extensive training. The difference is that most get handsomely rewarded for their trouble. Regional pilot have to commute because they can not afford to live where they work.
When I was younger my town had several prevalent major airline captains who lived here. Everyone knew who they were because they had the biggest ranches and newest cars. Those guys are all gone now. They all had to move back into the city. Times are changing. To a 50 year old by all means stick with it. To anyone just starting out be warned.
SkyHigh
#128
Skyhigh it seems no matter what someone posts you answer back with the same garbage every time. Someone could ask you a question which has nothing to do with aviation and the answer would contain info on how bad airline careers are.
Get over it and get on with your life.
Get over it and get on with your life.
SkyHigh
#129
People should know my background!
They should know that I started flying at 14. Graduated from the top of my class in college. Struggled as a CFI, bush pilot, forest service pilot, air-ambulance/charter/corporate pilot, and finally as an airline pilot. I have plenty of heart and drive. My main flaw is that I have at least a shred of self respect.
I stupidly expected that after all the sacrifices, moves, jobs and effort that at 36 I would be worth at least a job that pays a middle class wage and would offer me the opportunity to live within 300 miles of where I wished.
I never thought that my career would expect me to move overseas to keep it alive. I did not expect that it would have me sacrifice the happiness of my wife and children. And I certainly did not expect to be impoverished after so long in the saddle.
I will not accept those conditions. You seem to imply that those characteristics make me less of a person somehow. Others are willing to lay down with turned up belly to the industry. I hold myself to higher expectations in life and if aviation will not produce then I will seek elsewhere.
SkyHigh
They should know that I started flying at 14. Graduated from the top of my class in college. Struggled as a CFI, bush pilot, forest service pilot, air-ambulance/charter/corporate pilot, and finally as an airline pilot. I have plenty of heart and drive. My main flaw is that I have at least a shred of self respect.
I stupidly expected that after all the sacrifices, moves, jobs and effort that at 36 I would be worth at least a job that pays a middle class wage and would offer me the opportunity to live within 300 miles of where I wished.
I never thought that my career would expect me to move overseas to keep it alive. I did not expect that it would have me sacrifice the happiness of my wife and children. And I certainly did not expect to be impoverished after so long in the saddle.
I will not accept those conditions. You seem to imply that those characteristics make me less of a person somehow. Others are willing to lay down with turned up belly to the industry. I hold myself to higher expectations in life and if aviation will not produce then I will seek elsewhere.
SkyHigh
#130
Maybe I missed something, but weren't you trying to get "back into the game" and apply with Alaska?
Its a bitter sweet love with aviation, and I think there is an argument there, but like I have always said before, the reason the aircraft seats are lamb skin is so you can fart and no one will ever be able to tell.
Ponder that.
Its a bitter sweet love with aviation, and I think there is an argument there, but like I have always said before, the reason the aircraft seats are lamb skin is so you can fart and no one will ever be able to tell.
Ponder that.
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