i thought you lived in the bay area or is it seattle?

 

I'm guessing It would probably be more difficult for you to find 3 SWA Pilots willing to sponsor you, with your Black cloud attitude.

A big part of getting a JOB at a major (assuming you have the credentials)
is passing the Personnel Interview. If you don't exhibit a positive mental attitude to your interviewer.............you get that infamous "letter" in the mail Instead of that wonderful "Phone call" a few days after you return home from your interview.

We know, you have recieved several "letters"

SKY We've all heard your story, we've all heard your Forecasts............

A flying career ain't for everybody, especially if you refuse to move and don't want to commute. We all understand that.
Give it a rest and move on.......

 

Sky...no offense intended. But from what I've gathered from reading your posts:

1) You tried to get started without paying your dues, and were partially successful
2) The rug got pulled out from underneath you, and because you were under-qualified you can't find equivalent work
3) You are now extremely bitter.

For god's sake, if you want to fly for a living, get out there and fly! Pay some dues for a few years. I had plans that got changed as of 9/11 too, I adapted as best as I was able. If you don't want to work for an airline, don't! Believe it or not there are other avenues available to you that will keep you flying, and yes, even let you make a decent living! And...if you don't want to fly for a living, find a different hobby than hanging out in a flying for a living forum!

My $.02. Best of luck to you.

 

Uh oh... I hope Sky doesn't read this one. I think he is still tired from the last round; Sky maybe you should exempt yourself from this one.

 

Not sure what your point was for either of those comments, but they are beneath you.

Not really worthy of a response, other than to say, disappointing.

 

You are right. It was beneath me. The point I was trying to make was that it seems that FedEx captains almost exclusively seem to have the same attitudes and approaches to addressing my concerns and points. Rarely does a UAL, DAL or other legacy pilot have the same arrogant, self centered and oblivious personalities. I think that the reason is that they are far removed from most of what I write about and are unable to understand.

I apologise.

SkyHigh

 

I am diapointed. So what? My concerns and experiences are valid. Our nations founding fathers were also disaprointed. I am sure that the Brittish considered them to be "bitter" as well.

I am not underqualified. The system changed the qualifications right out from under me. Before 911 it wasn't as much of a requirement to have turbine PIC as it is now. In the mid-1990's it was almost unheard of. There were few turbine planes to be had back then and it wasn't nessacery to have turbine PIC. My entire generation was passed over. Guys who hired on at a major airline only to be furloughed later without any turbine PIC had no place to go. It was the norm to get hired without turbine PIC.

Now at 36 and with a family in tow I am supposed to go back two steps and seek out a turbine plane someplace? Earn 20K perhaps and waste another year or two to get into the left seat and then another year or two to get the PIC? Only to discover that by then the hot thing is RJ part 121 PIC? I paid plenty of aweful and diffucult dues. I have thousands of hours of life threatening piston part 135 single pilot IFR captain time. I wasted a four year degree on the subject and many more years as a CFI.

I understand the reasonings of HR. They have to narrow down the flood of applicants somehow. My career was unfortunate. Everything I worked for is now worthless. All the years of icing up over the cascades in the middle of the night are meaningless. After all these fathful years I am unable to find a job worthy enough to support my family on. Yes I am disapointed. Why wouldn't I be?


SkyHigh

 

I can not even name three SWA Captains. I have never met one who lives in my home state. None of my friends and co-workers have ever gone to SWA. (well a few have) The big reason is that they don't live here because it is too far of a commute.

I will give it a rest. It is others like yourself who keep bringing the topic up.

I do not now nor ever wished to fly for SWA. They are a fine company however they are not prevalent in the northwest. They don't have bases here. Don't fly to many cities here. Don't have many SWA pilots who live here either. I have a family who is very happy to live where we do and do not really want me to spent my days off sleeping in terminals trying to commute home for a day and a half before struggling to get back. We don't want to move.

One of life's most precious liberties is being able to live where you wish. Work is supposed to be a means to an end and not what your entire live is wrapped around.

I have to leave soon to meet up with my brother for an early morning motorcycle ride in the mountains. I am able to do things like this because I live with my friends and family in a place we are excited about. Yesterday I took my kids fishing. An apartment in Baltimore is just not worth it.


SkyHigh

 

I'm curious what your qualifications are seen as you don't have 1000 turbine PIC. did you even upgrade at horizon before you left for national?

who the hell told you that you didn't need turbine PIC to get on with a major. that's all I've ever heard of since the early 90's before I ever got on with a regional. the only people that I saw go to a major without the 1000 turbine PIC were interns.

 

Turbine PIC has been a basic requirement since the early 80's if not earlier. skyhigh is just appeasing himself and making excuses. I began pursuing this career in 1983 and I was told then that the only way for a civilian to get hired at a major was to have, not only turbine PIC, but that PIC would most likely need to be turboJET PIC.

I will offer this, turbine PIC is the new JET time.

College classmates from the early 80's that managed to get hired at a major before the 80's ended either went corporate and got some jet time, or went to a commuter and logged years as PIC before being able to gain a majors attention.

Again, it appears the skyhigh is just appeasing himself.