WhisperJet

Foreign deployments use lower power levels, have exclusion zones around airports, and are farther away from the RA frequencies.

NuGuy

All extremely subtle points lost in the chaff of the Internet.

LumberJack

Sounds like the 220 is having some autothrottle anomalies. There was mention it might be linked to existing 5G but that's only their theory at this point.

rickair7777

Yes, different countries can and will implement 5G on different parts of the spectrum.

rickair7777

Airbus and Boeing call for delay to 5G deployment...

https://www.npr.org/2021/12/21/10662...afety-concerns

LumberJack

If you had to guess the No. 1 worry for airline execs right now, what would you say? Omicron lowering holiday travel demand? Rude passengers refusing to mask up?

The answer, in fact, is not at all related to Covid: What the industry is most concerned about, Southwest CEO Gary Kelly told senators last week, is the arrival of a new 5G wireless service from AT&T and Verizon on Jan. 5. The aviation sector has been arguing that this launch will interfere with key cockpit systems and lead to major disruptions for travelers in the new year.

• United Airlines CEO Scott Kirby said that the 5G rollout could delay, divert, or cancel ~4% of daily flights.
• The trade group Airlines for America projected 5G-related delays will cost passengers $1.6 billion annually.

Why can’t 5G and cockpits get along?

Airline execs say 5G signals, which operate in a range of radio frequencies called the C-band, could mess with the cockpit systems that are used to track a plane’s altitude and help with landings in bad weather. So, in a situation where those systems are interfered with and dense fog rolls into Chicago, landings at O’Hare might be deemed unsafe, which would then wreak scheduling havoc across the country.

In response to these concerns, telecom leaders are playing the world’s smallest violin. Wireless companies paid at least $81 billion for the rights to this C-band, and they’re not going to let airline execs ruin their much-hyped push into next-gen wireless networks…especially when they consider those concerns unfounded.

• “The aviation industry’s fearmongering relies on completely discredited information and deliberate distortions of fact,” Nick Ludlum, senior vice president at wireless trade group CTIA, said.

Looking ahead…telecom and aviation leaders are locked in high-stakes negotiations with the White House and regulators over a deal that would dim 5G signal power near airports. In the meantime, airlines are warily prepping for flight restrictions.—NF

Taken from Morning Brew

Cyio

So which is it? Do they cause interference to the point that flights cant land in bad weather or are the telecom trade groups correct, that this has been disproven and overblown?

DarkSideMoon

This is good journalism.

This group says X, this group counters with Y. It’s not a settled matter, here are the opinions of both sides.

jaxsurf

Good journalism? But nobody’s told me what to think! How can I win online arguments if I’m not provided the speaking points for me to parrot??

Cyio

That’s exactly my point. Until this is settled science is there anything really to talk about? How hard can it be for the aviation/telecom world to come together and do some testing before sending fear out into the world.