Not to poo poo your sentiment too hard, but if the leaked info is accurate, it isn’t even close to what we need . Barely keeps up with inflation and doesn’t address reserve, training pay, vaca pay, and a host of other issues. Don’t be blinded by “20%”. As for our culture, the Pilot culture is, for the most part, pretty good. We have a few with their heads in the sand and don’t understand that being in ALPA is a participation sport, but most get it. As far as corporate culture, most pilots don’t give 2 ****es about all the drivel coming out of Willis tower. We’ve seen the same repackaged branding stuff a dozen times through the years.

True it’s only an AIP but that puts you leaps and bounds ahead of AA who is still seemingly at square one. The OPs choosing between UAL and AAL and I think the choice is obvious now.

Out of curiosity does anyone know if UAL has always had the most WB aircraft. I feel like trying to base AA vs UAL based on fleet composition 20 years from now for WB captain might be difficult.

I believe United’s widebody fleet grew dramatically after they acquired the Pan Am routes. Somebody correct me if I’m wrong. They have had an outsized WB fleet for ages. More importantly Scott Kirby has said numerous times that he wants United to be the biggest international carrier. That’s the stated goal. Isom has said numerous times that American needs to watch every dollar.

One airline ordered Boom jets the other airline is starting a greyhound bus service and bribing wholly owned pilots with 170k to come work for AA.

The trajectories of the two airlines couldn’t be more different. Doug Parker’s biggest mistake was letting go of Kirby and keeping Isom.