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Old 05-13-2022, 01:03 PM
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I’m all for extending the mandatory retirement to Infiniti as long as it comes with some stringent medical screening requirements past age 60.
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Old 05-13-2022, 01:31 PM
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I’m all for extending the mandatory retirement to Infiniti as long as it comes with some stringent medical screening requirements past age 60.
I agree; that will make it easier for me to LTD out. Perhaps add cognitive testing ... I'm sure there are more than a few here that think I have a defective brain. I think I can fail that test fairly easily.

Here's an article confirming that it's a rumor that Sen Graham's pushing this:
https://airlineweekly.com/2022/05/se...etirement-age/
If you're thinking about writing a letter to his office, he's currently 66 so I don't think it'll be very effective.

Given that this is an election year and there's still a lot of work to be done on this, I wouldn't expect to see a change before 2023; probably after the new batch of congresscritters get sworn in.
Maybe Biden will veto it? I mean, a 79 year old will surely have a problem with raising the retirement age to 67.
Also, a lot of our congresscritters are older than 67. So if (more likely when) this gets out of committee, it's likely to pass.
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They should have a mandatory retirement age also

And wasn’t Lindsey Graham the one who openly suggested we assassinate a world leader? He def needs to be put out to pasture.
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I am 100 percent for it. I should be able to work as long as like as long as I pass a check ride and my medical. Timing is everything in this industry. The age got changed to 65 when I was a FO, which delayed my upgrade by years, I just accepted and kept on working. The mystical Covid and the Mystical election have all had consequences, we are now seeing the results of both and they are not good.
Thanks for injecting your politics into yet another thread that should have nothing to do with it. We get it. Your upgrade was delayed. My recall from furlough was delayed. How we vote isn’t relevant.
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Old 05-13-2022, 02:17 PM
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[QUOTE=ZapBrannigan;3422035]Thanks for injecting your politics into yet another thread that should have nothing to do with it. We get it. Your upgrade was delayed. My recall from furlough was delayed. How we vote isn’t relevant.[/QUOTE

Right? Well fuel prices are about to kill any growth at the airlines. So that's not going to kill your upgrade? Inflation going to decrease the revenue, which is going to kill the bottom line at many airlines even at SWA, so you don't think that/'s going to kill your upgrade?? I could go on and on. If i want to work until am 68 I should be allowed to if I pass my check rides and my medical and I planning on doing just that.

Alpa was certainly singing different tune back when the age 60 got changed. LOL!!

https://www.defensedaily.com/u-s-air...uncategorized/

Already starting to see the effects of high fuel prices.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...fuel-cost-jump
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Old 05-13-2022, 02:44 PM
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They should have a mandatory retirement age also

And wasn’t Lindsey Graham the one who openly suggested we assassinate a world leader? He def needs to be put out to pasture.
There's been whispers about Feinstein for a while now. Here's a recent article on this subject: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dia...tebook-pergram

Biden's is markedly slower in the cognitive department but still functioning.
Pelosi's lost a couple of steps but she's still doing OK.

I haven't seen any other elder politicians speaking publicly. Those that have issues tend to be shielded from the public by their aides. I haven't seen any clips of Feinstein speaking so I can't personally comment on how she's doing cognitively.

But you're asking the rule makers to put themselves out to pasture. It's more likely for them to die in office. Chuck Grassley, at 88, is running for reelection this midterm - and he's almost guaranteed to be reelected. Feinstein's up for reelection in 2024.
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik View Post

“Gonna be a good day. I’m gonna grease that landing and not poop my pants.”
To be fair, that’s not really age specific…it may just be a poor time for a combination of last nights street tacos and this mornings Dunkin to kick in…😆
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Originally Posted by Skeet20 View Post
I am 100 percent for it. I should be able to work as long as like as long as I pass a check ride and my medical. Timing is everything in this industry. The age got changed to 65 when I was a FO, which delayed my upgrade by years, I just accepted and kept on working. The mystical Covid and the Mystical election have all had consequences, we are now seeing the results of both and they are not good.
And you’ll stagnate for 2+ more years if this passes. Which it won’t. The only people who wouldn’t stagnate would be the younger crowd hired after the age 65 bill was introduced.
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan View Post
Thanks for injecting your politics into yet another thread that should have nothing to do with it. We get it. Your upgrade was delayed. My recall from furlough was delayed. How we vote isn’t relevant.
SWAPA was also singing a different tune with age 65. I think its funny SWAPA and ALPA all making public statements about not wanting the age to be bumped up to age 67 or 68, yet most likely over 98% Captains who work at both unions are going home praying it does change. ALPA voted in age 65 by over 80% vote.


http://www.ppf.org/newslet.htm

Important text:
November 2006Volume 16, Issue 11
Anxious Times Presidents Message ---
This has been an interesting, if not exciting, month. Senator Inhofe, sponsor of S.65 to change the Age 60 Rule, reportedly groundlooped his light plane. PPF has entered into an agreement with the SouthWest Airlines Pilots Association (SWAPA) to provide one third of the expense in hiring a Public Relations firm for 90 days. A picketing action during the ALPA annual in Las Vegas, is being planned at the last minute. An Aviation Rulemaking Committee was formed by the FAA, on extremely short notice and Senator Inhofe responded with a “we’re keeping an eye on you” letter to the Administrator.
To begin with, Senator Inhofe did not get injured in his mishap. Neither did his passenger. From the press reports, it would appear that he flew from Tulsa to Norman, OK, where he felt something amiss with the rudder. Visual inspection after landing revealed nothing. He took off for the return flight to Tulsa where he again noticed that something didn’t feel right. He informed his passenger that the landing may be more eventful than normal, and briefed him on exit procedures. Approaching the airport, he requested the longest runway rather than the usual shorter runway. Touchdown was normal, however when the
tailwheel was lowered, the aircraft apparently groundlooped, damaging the plane. The FAA said there was not enough damage to be an accident/incident and the NTSB inspector told the Senator to “get it fixed”. End of story.
Toward the end of last week PPF was informed that a PR firm was being hired by SWAPA to participate in the conflict against the Age 60 Rule, for a 90 day period at a fixed sum, plus certain expenses. A meeting was arranged with “Ike” Eichelkraut, President of SWAPA. We offered to enter a partnership where PPF would cover a third of the cost, with SWAPA and APAAD supplying two thirds. We quickly agreed and the PR firm, O'Neill and Associates, started that day.
If ever we needed publicity, the next 90 days surely are the most critical.




I found it interesting that SWAPA chipped in for 1/3 of an ad campaign along with PPF and APAAD.
Somehow, I don't think that SWAPA's MEC informed the membership before committing the funds. I'm not throwing rocks at the entire SWAPA membership, just surprised that their MEC would do this without discussing it with the full membership.
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Originally Posted by bonvoyage View Post
And you’ll stagnate for 2+ more years if this passes. Which it won’t. The only people who wouldn’t stagnate would be the younger crowd hired after the age 65 bill was introduced.
Fine with me. I stagnated for years as a FO. Upgrade pushed back, had to continue to commute for another 3.5 years due to age 65 change.
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