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05-14-2022, 11:24 AM

#121

ZapBrannigan

Furloughed Again?!

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Position: Boeing 737

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Originally Posted by rickair7777

Yeah it's got me thinking.

I'm still a few hundred numbers out or it would have me thinking too.

05-14-2022, 02:59 PM

#122

FAR121

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Originally Posted by BLMPilot

I hope the old grandpas aren’t offended when a gen z has to take the controls during a boomer senior moment. After 65 an auto land should be required on their legs, plus they should be banned from landing at certain airports.

Only certain airports and planes are certified for auto land so their availability for crew scheduling would be extremely limited. Better they be sim instructors because you can’t crash a sim only red screen it.

05-14-2022, 03:18 PM

#123

FSF17

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Position: 320A

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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan

I foresee a mad rush to upgrade before this becomes a thing.

Or a mad rush not to. Who wants to be on reserve for 3 years?

05-14-2022, 04:19 PM

#124

hoover

At your mom's house

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Position: cpt 737

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Originally Posted by Nantonaku

Seems possible this could require the airlines to keep larger staff to back up 67 year olds with massive sick and vacation time. So does this solve the staffing problem at all or just make it worse? If I’m working at 67 I’ll be flying one trip a month max.

that what I was thinking. Sit back, call in sick a few times a month, max vacation and you're only working a fuller schedule for 5 mo this a yr max. I think it would have zero net + effect on staffing.

05-14-2022, 06:14 PM

#125

Moonbeam

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Originally Posted by hoover

When it was still age 60 everyone went back to the panel on the 727 at my airline. More than a few would bid reserve "no fly" and on the rare occasion they got called they would just bang in sick. Then they would bid all the summer vacation slots and work during them to make some money. Then they would go out on medical for a few month, come back for a few months until they died. The lucky younger ones were able to go back to Captain for a few years when it changed to 65. It was a glorious time in aviation! Can't wait for it to return.

05-14-2022, 06:28 PM

#126

DarkSideMoon

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How do you handle the icao rules without abrogating seniority? Will 55 year old FO’s bidding domestic trips get those trips robbed for 66 year old FO’s who can’t bid international? Will younger FO’s get pushed off of narrowbodies so a junior 66 year old can be assured of not going overseas? That’s the biggest challenge IMO. I’m fine with 67 if you start at the bottom of the list again so you don’t rob senior people of trips/fleets they want. Everyone seems to forget that older doesn’t always equal more senior. I had a 63 year old a class behind me.

05-14-2022, 09:19 PM

#127

PineappleXpres

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Originally Posted by Bobine

This would be awesome, 3 more years as a WB captain. Kids school is paid for, house is paid for. I could put some serious coin in the bank.

The only people to truly benefit are those who would be about to turn 65. They got an extra 2 years without any expense. Everyone else’s expense is compounded and working until 67 wouldn’t likely make up for the compounded setback. Nobody under 60 should want this.