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Margaritaville 07-08-2022 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 3456859)
And this is the reason I want a medical with cognitive reasoning tests. #facepalm. If you had actually read my post before starting that unhinged rant, you would see the only thing I really said was that you used majority instead of plurality based on some questionable statistics.

No kidding. I still say this guy's a troll trying to make the old guys look bad but if he's legit... sheesh. Dementia has set in.

Mytime2025 07-08-2022 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by Margaritaville (Post 3456895)
No kidding. I still say this guy's a troll trying to make the old guys look bad but if he's legit... sheesh. Dementia has set in.

You clearly flunked statistical trend analysis in school. Other strongly implies greater than 68. The person that put the poll together didn't want to include every age past 68 that's why it's at the end. He made it clear that the "no way" was 65 and all the rest are in favor of raising it to something greater than 65. Any 3rd grader could see that.

Margaritaville 07-08-2022 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by Mytime2025 (Post 3456949)
You clearly flunked statistical trend analysis in school. Other strongly implies greater than 68. The person that put the poll together didn't want to include every age past 68 that's why it's at the end. He made it clear that the "no way" was 65 and all the rest are in favor of raising it to something greater than 65. Any 3rd grader could see that.

I didn't take "statistical trend analysis" (is that even a thing?), and none of that made any sense, gramps. Thanks for again proving why the retirement age shouldn't be raised. Your cognitive decline is very evident. Now let me help you back to bed.

CBreezy 07-08-2022 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by Mytime2025 (Post 3456949)
You clearly flunked statistical trend analysis in school. Other strongly implies greater than 68. The person that put the poll together didn't want to include every age past 68 that's why it's at the end. He made it clear that the "no way" was 65 and all the rest are in favor of raising it to something greater than 65. Any 3rd grader could see that.

Don't bring that fake expert lingo in here. There is so much wrong with that 'poll' that it's laughable to even consider it anything resembling accurate. The first of which is self-selection bias on some obscure anonymous aviation website.

Myfingershurt 07-08-2022 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by Mytime2025 (Post 3456949)
You clearly flunked statistical trend analysis in school. Other strongly implies greater than 68. The person that put the poll together didn't want to include every age past 68 that's why it's at the end. He made it clear that the "no way" was 65 and all the rest are in favor of raising it to something greater than 65. Any 3rd grader could see that.

Seriously man, there are meds for early onset dementia. The earlier you catch it the better.

ThumbsUp 07-08-2022 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 3456719)
I'm part of that "vast majority". I thought our generation was the one supposed to complain about young kids not being able to do math/know words.

Even when you totally disregard the "maybe" in the options, you get a plurality of 47% in favor of increasing, and 32% dead set against. That leaves 20% whose opinion we have no idea about, but because the way the question was framed could all be on favor of going back to age 60, leading to a majority of 52% against raising the age.

I'm in favor of raising the age, for purely selfish reasons. I am also in favor of a first class medical that actually tests for physical and mental health, and cognitive abilities.

The survey is only as valid as the audiences that answered it, which is probably largely not airline pilots, particularly younger ones, since it is from avweb.

Mytime2025 07-08-2022 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by Margaritaville (Post 3456952)
I didn't take "statistical trend analysis" (is that even a thing?), and none of that made any sense, gramps. Thanks for again proving why the retirement age shouldn't be raised. Your cognitive decline is very evident. Now let me help you back to bed.

Ok but first after my 8 mile mountain hike today. Yes it is a thing if you actually went to college you would know that. Used in finance and basic statistics.

Red Forman 07-08-2022 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by Mytime2025 (Post 3457046)
Ok but first after my 8 mile mountain hike today. Yes it is a thing if you actually went to college you would know that. Used in finance and basic statistics.

Can your dad beat up my dad?

Mytime2025 07-08-2022 10:23 PM


Originally Posted by ThumbsUp (Post 3457014)
The survey is only as valid as the audiences that answered it, which is probably largely not airline pilots, particularly younger ones, since it is from avweb.

Ever wonder why ALPA has not put out a poll? They know the results would make them look more out of touch than they already are.

C17B74 07-09-2022 12:00 AM

Poll or no poll, our failure is to think we really are that important as just a cog. Definitely strength in numbers, but business is business and $$$ drives them, us, simply everyone for the most part with some exceptions. Most any pilot at 65 is at the top of their pay scale so there is minimal argument for two more years. Reality is Boomers will come and go, Gen X will come and go, followed by the next and maybe perhaps the next if they aren’t replaced by automation or reduced in some manner. Bottom line: Everyone will get old or are already older and eventually everyone dies. Longer you have remaining the more pitfalls you will be subject too within this industry. Always be prepared or ready to “Brace for Impact”, there is no normal life it’s just life - Enjoy your OneLife!

*Yup, I am older but 60 sounds like a good plan - I do have other ventures I would like to pursue, but no one knows exactly what’s right until you get there.


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