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Margaritaville 06-17-2022 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by Big E 757 (Post 3442541)
After all the years of Spirit, Frontier, and Allegiant Pilots complaining about Legacy pilots “looking down their noses”, or otherwise not treating LCC pilots with respect, it’s funny to watch you guys and girls bagging on Avelo Pilots. What’s the problem? Are you angry that they are willing to work for less money? Is that threatening you or your job security? You think they are lesser pilots, even though they fly comparable sized aircraft to you guys. They are pilots too.

We're not looking down on them. We're making fun of them for their 8 stripes, flowers, and non matching pants. Just like we make fun of you guys for your hats, horse blankets, windchecks, light chop reports, and guard policing.

Mr Magoo 06-17-2022 08:27 PM

Is there an E3 Visa program in place yet for AAmerican pilots?

galaxy flyer 06-19-2022 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by Swakid8 (Post 3441749)
I wouldn’t mind slacks and a polo for a dress code….


Most corporate flight departments fly with slacks and polo, overseas uniform shirt, slacks, no tie. Many are now receptive to facial hair, too. There are options.

dualinput 06-19-2022 09:26 AM

Nothing says we’ll dressed like slacks and a polo

Eye roll

TransWorld 06-19-2022 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by dualinput (Post 3443844)
Nothing says we’ll dressed like slacks and a polo

Eye roll

Flip flops okay, as well? 🤣

Myfingershurt 06-19-2022 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3444088)
Flip flops okay, as well? 🤣

Man, one can only dream. Why does the world have to be so uptight about apparel?

TransWorld 06-19-2022 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by Myfingershurt (Post 3444089)
Man, one can only dream. Why does the world have to be so uptight about apparel?

Do you draw the line with the guys you fly with needing to keep their fly zipped up?

PorkyMcFuzz 06-21-2022 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by Mr Magoo (Post 3443160)
Is there an E3 Visa program in place yet for AAmerican pilots?

The Auzie E3 visa bois have no problem taking up jobs up here but from what I have been told by a number of them candidly, would lose their minds if anyone dares fly down there who isnt a resident or citizen. Really not a fan of this E3 deal and hope it is suspended. All it does is just alleviates the pressures on management a bit more to delay or in some cases, avoid, better pay and conditions to attract more pilots in the long term. Thought I read ALPA wanted it dialled back or stopped all together.

Thumb War 06-25-2022 03:28 PM

There’s always the Aussie 457 visa which is offered by regionals from time to time, however if you did the smallest amount of research you’d quickly realize it’s just not worth it. There’s a reason so many Aussies are heading to the States - unless you’ve got more than a decade seniority in Qantas you’re better off in the USA!

Bubbaj 06-25-2022 04:17 PM

There would be lucky to be 5000-7000 current ATPL holders in Aus 2-3000 of those probably work at QF the other 2000 at VA and other random carriers. I don’t think the few hundred heading the US will make much difference. AA alone has well over 13000 pilots with the majority at retirement age in the next 5-7 years.
My numbers may be way off just spit balling, but the US job market is massive compared to down under. 10000 E3/year have been available since 1995. They rarely issue more than about 3-4000, historically not many of those would have been pilots.


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