SWA or DAL?
06-28-2007, 04:12 PM
#11
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Originally Posted by HuronIP
Did they already give you a class date? I interviewed in March with they type and I'm available in August and I haven't been called yet.
06-28-2007, 05:26 PM
#12
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This was an easy call 6 months ago (shoot, even two months ago)...it's a toss up now!!
SWA has a great track record, a phenomenal corporate culture and all analysts are still predicting profits around 450 million for this year and more next year. But, they have 200+ in the pool, and I heard (but not confirmed) they CNX the July class. Almost 1500 folks have been hired since 2004, and it now appears hiring will be cut in half. Anyone starting now is on the back end of the wave and will be looking at a longer upgrade.
Delta has certainly taken a beating the last few years, and while many there are optimistic, getting back a good chunk of the pay is not certain. They appear to have made dramatic cuts in cost outside of just labor, and pilots there tell me they are being used far more efficiently than in the past (Reserves are flying 75+ hours on almost all types). If hired now at Delta, you will be getting in on the front end of what Delta believes will be a prolonged hiring period. Ask any of the old timers if it is good to be in the first 200 hired after a 6 year pause.
Codfather...do not pass up the opportunity at Delta. I was in your exact same position 1 month ago. It took me 7 days to call back for the interview once I got the E-Mail. I thought for sure I would just use Delta as a back-up (was not sure I wanted to burn the bridge). After being fortunate enough to talk to the Delta folks and get hired, I have been doing my research. I am slowly moving more toward taking the Delta gig. I have been told by both SWA and Delta to expect an August class, so I have about one more month to watch things develop. Seeing things happen the way they are at SWA, I am very grateful to have another strong choice...Both are solid and you can't go wrong...Go to the interview!!
SWA has a great track record, a phenomenal corporate culture and all analysts are still predicting profits around 450 million for this year and more next year. But, they have 200+ in the pool, and I heard (but not confirmed) they CNX the July class. Almost 1500 folks have been hired since 2004, and it now appears hiring will be cut in half. Anyone starting now is on the back end of the wave and will be looking at a longer upgrade.
Delta has certainly taken a beating the last few years, and while many there are optimistic, getting back a good chunk of the pay is not certain. They appear to have made dramatic cuts in cost outside of just labor, and pilots there tell me they are being used far more efficiently than in the past (Reserves are flying 75+ hours on almost all types). If hired now at Delta, you will be getting in on the front end of what Delta believes will be a prolonged hiring period. Ask any of the old timers if it is good to be in the first 200 hired after a 6 year pause.
Codfather...do not pass up the opportunity at Delta. I was in your exact same position 1 month ago. It took me 7 days to call back for the interview once I got the E-Mail. I thought for sure I would just use Delta as a back-up (was not sure I wanted to burn the bridge). After being fortunate enough to talk to the Delta folks and get hired, I have been doing my research. I am slowly moving more toward taking the Delta gig. I have been told by both SWA and Delta to expect an August class, so I have about one more month to watch things develop. Seeing things happen the way they are at SWA, I am very grateful to have another strong choice...Both are solid and you can't go wrong...Go to the interview!!
06-28-2007, 07:40 PM
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Go Ugly early!!!!!!
These airline jobs are like dating ugly women......
I vote to go ugly early, All the best laid plans can
go inverted quickly. And you have nothing to say about it.
Lots of great airlines from the past are only still alive
in the history books.
I would interview all both and take the first one that says YES to you.
Both companies are great. Its all a crapshoot till the day you
cash your retirement check.
In my class 2 guys jumped ship , one to SWA and one to UAL.
UAL looked great then, SWA was just a punk kid down the street.
Now Look!
I vote to go ugly early, All the best laid plans can
go inverted quickly. And you have nothing to say about it.
Lots of great airlines from the past are only still alive
in the history books.
I would interview all both and take the first one that says YES to you.
Both companies are great. Its all a crapshoot till the day you
cash your retirement check.
In my class 2 guys jumped ship , one to SWA and one to UAL.
UAL looked great then, SWA was just a punk kid down the street.
Now Look!
06-28-2007, 07:58 PM
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Position: B737
Posts: 80
These airline jobs are like dating ugly women......
I vote to go ugly early, All the best laid plans can
go inverted quickly. And you have nothing to say about it.
Lots of great airlines from the past are only still alive
in the history books.
I would interview all both and take the first one that says YES to you.
Both companies are great. Its all a crapshoot till the day you
cash your retirement check.
In my class 2 guys jumped ship , one to SWA and one to UAL.
UAL looked great then, SWA was just a punk kid down the street.
Now Look!
I vote to go ugly early, All the best laid plans can
go inverted quickly. And you have nothing to say about it.
Lots of great airlines from the past are only still alive
in the history books.
I would interview all both and take the first one that says YES to you.
Both companies are great. Its all a crapshoot till the day you
cash your retirement check.
In my class 2 guys jumped ship , one to SWA and one to UAL.
UAL looked great then, SWA was just a punk kid down the street.
Now Look!
06-29-2007, 01:27 AM
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Position: 737/FO
Posts: 222
Depends
If you want to have fun at your job, get paid fairly, sweet hotel discounts, and won't hate the support personnel, go with SW.
If you have a corn cob inserted down stairs or want to be involved in the pitting of labor groups against each other, go with those other guys. Mind you that DAL has a 'few' of these.
If you have a corn cob inserted down stairs or want to be involved in the pitting of labor groups against each other, go with those other guys. Mind you that DAL has a 'few' of these.
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