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Crjdeuce 03-22-2023 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by at6d (Post 3611511)
Let them come back as FO’s.

Forced downgrade at 65 if you wish to continue til 67

ZapBrannigan 03-22-2023 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by Crjdeuce;[url=tel:3611652
3611652[/url]]Forced downgrade at 65 if you wish to continue til 67

Not the worst idea I've ever heard. Beats what they did when they went from 60-65 overnight while a few thousand were still on furlough.

Softpayman 03-22-2023 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by Crjdeuce (Post 3611652)
Forced downgrade at 65 if you wish to continue til 67

Mmmmm… not a terrible idea. Would probably thin the herd as well.

madmax757 03-22-2023 12:32 PM

Imagine being a captain for 20 plus years and now you’re doing the pre / post flights in the cold rain. Single engine taxi checks and flows. The right seat is a lot more physical and mental
work if you ask me. If you’re a big 3 pilot then senior WB FO but that’s exhausting imho. Idk about that.

SimWorld 03-22-2023 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by madmax757 (Post 3611676)
Imagine being a captain for 20 plus years and now you’re doing the pre / post flights in the cold rain. Single engine taxi checks and flows. The right seat is a lot more physical and mental
work if you ask me. Idk about that.

exactly why they should do it. They also wouldn’t have to pay for beer anymore if they were one of the captains that bought beer. Aren’t there ICAO rules about flying over 65 internationally?

Boatbuilder 03-22-2023 12:40 PM

The article mentioned the Regional Airline Association was in favor of 67. How may 64 year old RJ pilots are there?
United CEO came out against raising the age. Said 40% of 64 year old pilots were out on medical.
So if it goes to 67 at 65 claim vertigo, depression or “suicidal thoughts” and collect your sick leave, disability etc for a year or 2. Paid retirement.

Won’t do squat to fix the “shortage”, but then again it is a “guvmint” solution.

ZapBrannigan 03-22-2023 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by Boatbuilder;[url=tel:3611683
3611683[/url]]The article mentioned the Regional Airline Association was in favor of 67. How may 64 year old RJ pilots are there?

It's a stopgap. They think it will slow down attrition to the destination carriers long enough for the commuters to catch up and hopefully (in their minds) create a little artificial demand so they can lower wages.

rickair7777 03-22-2023 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by Boatbuilder (Post 3611683)
Won’t do squat to fix the “shortage”, but then again it is a “guvmint” solution.

I'm not one of them in this case, but there are people who will argue that the "gubmint" shouldn't be involved in this in the first place. Other than to require a medical exam to fly pax.

Be careful of hypocrisy... many folks hate the gov, except when it's doing something for them.

highfarfast 03-22-2023 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by Boatbuilder (Post 3611683)
The article mentioned the Regional Airline Association was in favor of 67. How may 64 year old RJ pilots are there?
United CEO came out against raising the age. Said 40% of 64 year old pilots were out on medical.
So if it goes to 67 at 65 claim vertigo, depression or “suicidal thoughts” and collect your sick leave, disability etc for a year or 2. Paid retirement.

Won’t do squat to fix the “shortage”, but then again it is a “guvmint” solution.

I agree it doesn't fix anything and more than likely a significant amount of us will be able to collect disability for a bit longer. I don't think this would be like last time. I m not out and out in favor of raising the age, but I m not loosing sleep over it if they did.

Thatsapproved 03-22-2023 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3611530)
I remember when upgrades were 20 years.

Barf. Delta training is excited to teach these 1 year upgrades I’m told. AA needs that


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