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2StgTurbine 03-26-2023 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3613847)
Good health, passing rigorous physical and mental exams — retire when you want.

That's the problem. We don't have rigorous physical exams and we don't even have easy mental exams.

dmeg13021 03-26-2023 10:28 AM

Those at the top care not how many would get taken out by that rigor if they can only hang on two more years.

Cyio 03-26-2023 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by dmeg13021 (Post 3614124)
Those at the top care not how many would get taken out by that rigor if they can only hang on two more years.

I am not for extending but those extra 2 years would be the highest earning years of their careers. For some it could be another million bucks.

rickair7777 03-26-2023 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine (Post 3614069)
That's the problem. We don't have rigorous physical exams and we don't even have easy mental exams.

The mental exam is the sim.

Yes, I have known of two pilots who struggled with sim after years of experience on the type, who were subsequently diagnosed with some sort of dementia condition. If they struggled on the line, it didn't rise to anyone's attention.

rickair7777 03-26-2023 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3613847)
Good health, passing rigorous physical and mental exams — retire when you want. That is going to happen in the next couple of decades.

The risk of sudden incap rises with age, there are lots of factors but you cannot remove age from the equation. I think there does need to be an age limit, but don't know what it should be.

That age has probably increased since the 1950's as people on average live healthier lives.

I would be OK with slightly more stringent requirements for BMI, blood pressure, etc after age 50 or 60... those are cheap and easy to measure and also easy to correlate to specific statistics for stroke, etc. That would mitigate the age associated risk.

Grumpyaviator 03-26-2023 11:50 AM

I don’t think the industry could tolerate the reduction in staffing and the associated LTD that would result.

Noisecanceller 03-26-2023 05:45 PM

Doesn’t matter if the pilots get to stick around if the airlines can’t add capacity bc there aren’t enough controllers.

ReserveCA 03-28-2023 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by terks43 (Post 3613445)
Fight back against another 2 years of career stagnation. It takes 20 seconds to do. https://alpa.quorum.us/campaign/46304/

contacted my senators and congressmen.
told them not supporting this bill IS age discrimination

Noisecanceller 03-28-2023 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by ReserveCA (Post 3615464)
contacted my senators and congressmen.
told them not supporting this bill IS age discrimination

You already got five extra years. Get a hobby

AxlF16 03-28-2023 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by Noisecanceller (Post 3615476)
You already got five extra years. Get a hobby

Technically speaking, you did too.


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