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Extenda 04-17-2023 04:22 AM


Originally Posted by AxlF16 (Post 3625207)
Four pages of posts based on a Fox News article about someone with a 5000 signature petition 🙄🙄🙄

Maybe we can do a few pages on stinky or ugly people next?

That’s the point I was trying to make earlier. All these smart airline pilots don’t realize they’re all of a sudden outraged and typing long diatribes on APC about a petition that doesn’t matter and isn’t news. They just take the rage/fear bait hook line and sinker. They’re addicted to it.

Hedley 04-17-2023 05:21 AM


Originally Posted by Ice Bear (Post 3625237)
Just had to say, +1 for somebody finally acknowledging SEAT WIDTH OVER SEAT PITCH. 3x3 on a 737 or A320 is rough for an average-sized male, and it's not the legroom. Also, one armrest for two people is dastardly and unethical. Even with two Midwesterners both refusing it out of politeness, everybody loses. Ditch the pitch and make it 5-abreast.

The problem with reducing the seating capacity to accommodate bigger seats is that people would revolt over the necessary increase in ticket prices to maintain revenue. That $500 ticket now cost $600. The solution is much more affordable. People who pay for one seat should expect use of the entire space, those who take up more room should pay for it.

Duckdude 04-17-2023 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by hindsight2020 (Post 3625097)
Bit of a sidebar but, for context, in 1985 none of the main 4 offered seating narrower than 19 inches, and we were a heck of a lot thinner as a society back then. So the causation is not on fat people entitlement being the genesis of this.

I was a kid in 1985, not flying a lot then but I’d have sworn 727s and 737s at United had 6-across seating when I was a kid. So were the aisles a lot narrower, or am I remembering incorrectly, or is the article wrong? I don’t see any other possibilities here.

FliesInSoup 04-17-2023 12:17 PM

Oh surprise, another "news" article to stir up discord. From the original fear and hate, fake news channel nonetheless. But it sells because people buy it. And so much more entertaining and simple then reporting on Economic Policy.

This crap reporting would not have seen the light of day 30 years ago.

Hedley 04-17-2023 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by FliesInSoup (Post 3625465)
Oh surprise, another "news" article to stir up discord. From the original fear and hate, fake news channel nonetheless. But it sells because people buy it. And so much more entertaining and simple then reporting on Economic Policy.

This crap reporting would not have seen the light of day 30 years ago.

Is MSNBC any different? Cable news networks are all biased and pander to their target audiences using the same playbook.

FliesInSoup 04-17-2023 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by Hedley (Post 3625493)
Is MSNBC any different? Cable news networks are all biased and pander to their target audiences using the same playbook.

I'm not defending any network, but there's only one that's going to trial for $1.6 billion for lying to their viewers. I'd call that an objective difference.

Hubcapped 04-17-2023 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by Hedley (Post 3625493)
Is MSNBC any different? Cable news networks are all biased and pander to their target audiences using the same playbook.

He didn’t say it was. So to whom are you addressing this issue? Are you stuck in the “they do it too” phase? It’s pretty obvious that all the major news organizations peddle fear for money……….unless you are stuck in the matrix.

Now specifically, it’s hilarious that one in particular is struggling with a 1.6 billion lawsuit that they knowingly lied to keep people watching, and yet here we are, links still going out like they have any validity…that’s very telling no?
It absolutely shrieks propaganda slave.


. Take the blue or red, and see how far down the hole you go, but for the love of god keep your extremism to yourself on the flightdeck……please

Hedley 04-17-2023 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by Hubcapped (Post 3625544)
He didn’t say it was. So to whom are you addressing this issue? Are you stuck in the “they do it too” phase? It’s pretty obvious that all the major news organizations peddle fear for money……….unless you are stuck in the matrix.

Now specifically, it’s hilarious that one in particular is struggling with a 1.6 billion lawsuit that they knowingly lied to keep people watching, and yet here we are, links still going out like they have any validity…that’s very telling no?
It absolutely shrieks propaganda slave.


. Take the blue or red, and see how far down the hole you go, but for the love of god keep your extremism to yourself on the flightdeck……please

Who’s being extreme? All I said was that both sides are biased and play the same games. I actually find watching the news more amusing than anything. The same story gets completely different spins based what channel you’ve tuned in. Especially regarding politics, it’s kind of fun to watch a story on Fox News, MSNBC, and CNN to see how far they spin it.

Hubcapped 04-17-2023 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by Hedley (Post 3625564)
Who’s being extreme? All I said was that both sides are biased and play the same games. I actually find watching the news more amusing than anything. The same story gets completely different spins based what channel you’ve tuned in. Especially regarding politics, it’s kind of fun to watch a story on Fox News, MSNBC, and CNN to see how far they spin it.

My apologies, the extremism is attached to the OP. Anyone that posts either fox or cnn and believes it’s real/productive/genuine…….is an extremism imho. They’ve departed the middle ground

MaxQ 04-17-2023 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by Red Forman (Post 3625248)
Take your diatribe elsewhere.

Personally I think Burke brings a varied background, and though often lengthy, some knowledgeable posts.

For those posts that irritate me, from whomever, I sometimes respond....usually not, but accept their right to be (in my view) anywhere from a complete idiot to just ignorant.

many decades ago my wife provided me with a bit of insight that helped her, and I have adopted it with some occasional success.

She arrived in this country as a stateless refugee. In my parents time the term would have been DP.
She came from a country where you could be imprisoned for reading Orwell, or Solzhenitsyn, or Michnik etc. Imprisoned for even having such works in your possession, etc.

It drove her nuts, for some time, that in a country where you could read anything from Lenin to Hitler to Marx to Dostoevsky to Miłosz, people read Daniel Steele. Aargh!
She finally made peace of it with this:
"Being free means you are free to be as ignorant as you wish".

So, if we are free, then people are free to be as ignorant, as annoying, and as wrong as can be.
So...to both yourself and JBurke...carry on.


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