I'm not cargo hater, but this is a bit misleading. Of course you'll never divert for a disruptive pax, unless it's one of your own running around with an ax. But what is the percentage of pax flights diverting for unruly pax? I'd have to imagine it has a decimal and a zero or two before you get to a number above zero. Even if so, those pilot probably got a nice bit of extra pay for that divert lol. Even if I did, other than a radio call, I don't really deal with it anyway. I'm already through the first third of my pax carrier career (hopefully) and I haven't even had to kick off a pax at the gate, let alone divert for one. I sit up front with the door closed and let them deal with it while finding the end of the internet. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, it just seems like cargo guys woefully over blow this issue.



Man, unless it's a great location that I can take the lady with me, anything over 18 hours is going on my avoid list. I don't do this job to "travel" on overnights. Unless that 30-70 hour layover is at home, which I know some cargo guys who are lucky enough to do, then it's a complete waste of my time. I actually prefer no overnights, day trips and sleep in my own bed at night lol.



Admittedly not the main reason, but one of the reasons a buddy left FDX was he hated the "round the world" long haul flights. He knows he could have eventually bid off to something else, but he had his other reasons which were the driving factor. Though, I'm not sure if that's worse than one leg to Europe, 22-30 hours overnight, then one leg home, which is how a lot of our international trips are constructed.

You’ve never had a pax removed? That’s lucky. I’ve been in the pax biz for over 15 years and am in the double digits. It’s also rarely a big deal and somebody else is doing the work.

1/3 through your career… glad you’ve got it all figured out.

Spirit? 12 years for me. I've had one pax that had an appendix burst (what the paramedics thought anyway), while at the gate. But even that was simply a call to ops to send paramedics. I haven't yet had the misfortune of all these unruly pax that apparently are on ever pax flight lol.



If there is one thing I've learned so far, is you never have it figured out. What is it that I said I had figured out?

AA has the same TAFB rig. If I’m flying anywhere near that rig I’ve f’d up big time. My average over the last year is 1.5:1. No thanks.

So you get 1 hour of credit for every 1.5 hours TAFB? If that is what you mean you are probably not commuting. We have day turns that pay 1:1. 5 hours duty, 5 hours pay. But either too early to commute in, or too late to commute home.

I commute, start 10pm day 1, finish 8 am day 4, 70 hours TAFB, 15 hours duty, 20 hours pay. Show me a trip at AA that has the same footprint and pays over 45 hours……….

Amazing. Typical or one off?

Messed that up…. Finish 8PM day 4. But time away from base/credit/duty was correct.

Typo…. See above.

Occasionally get one that starts late, ends early , 60 hours TAFB with a 24hr+ layover that credits 20, but rare.

in 2020-2022 I think I averaged one a week for when I flew. Outside of that time maybe 1 every 6 months. Personally I've only asked 1 person to get off all the others were directed by the FAs