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dera 08-02-2023 06:24 AM


Originally Posted by crewdawg (Post 3672881)
Man, unless it's a great location that I can take the lady with me, anything over 18 hours is going on my avoid list. I don't do this job to "travel" on overnights. Unless that 30-70 hour layover is at home, which I know some cargo guys who are lucky enough to do, then it's a complete waste of my time. I actually prefer no overnights, day trips and sleep in my own bed, at night lol.

Horses for courses. I would rather change careers than do day trips.

Squawkbox2012 08-02-2023 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 3676667)
Horses for courses. I would rather change careers than do day trips.

I learned something new today when you said “horses for courses” haha. Never have heard that expression before. But a fair point for sure. Everyone is different and I totally get it.

crewdawg 08-03-2023 06:06 AM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 3676667)
Horses for courses. I would rather change careers than do day trips.


Understandable. What I liked has even changed over my own career.



Originally Posted by Squawkbox2012 (Post 3676953)
I learned something new today when you said “horses for courses” haha. Never have heard that expression before. But a fair point for sure. Everyone is different and I totally get it.


Lol same.

TransWorld 08-03-2023 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by Squawkbox2012 (Post 3676953)
I learned something new today when you said “horses for courses” haha. Never have heard that expression before. But a fair point for sure. Everyone is different and I totally get it.

Ditto for me.

Hellafo 01-08-2025 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by Joachim (Post 3666238)
My guess would be that international night flying in theater is the healthiest cargo option (CGN, or intra asia). You’re on body clock, short legs, low block, and low radiation. There are usually better food options, you have more time to eat, and you often have a high quality gym to yourself. You can definitely screw it up with brats and Kölsch but thats a personal choice.

Having done most types of flying in the 121 world I would say the it comes down to one and done type widebody pax flying and intra theater cargo flying. Of the two I prefer the cargo option.

This is just my personal opinion. I don’t have statistics like rickair777 says he does.

You’ll hear some people describing their ACMI experiences as an indicator of life at Purple/Brown and the reason for choosing pax. That is a mistake. It is very different. We do fly at night domestically. However, between the domestic day time and the international night time flying there are plenty of palatable options. You used to be able to bid those relatively quickly. Things have slowed down now.

That being said, with the rapid movement at legacies and the slowing pace of the aforementioned two I’d advise most aspirants to choose a legacy right now and stick with it. I would not leave a top two cargo slot unless I had little to no time invested and the reasons for leaving were overwhelming.

comparing an ACMI to UPS or FedEx is like comparing Endevour Air to Delta Air Lines, similar but different.

EMBFlyer 01-09-2025 12:24 PM

Question for those complaining about working at FedEx, working nights and Memphis:

What did you think we do?! We fly nights. That's the overnight package delivery industry. World Headquarters is in Memphis. Neither one of thse things has changed in 52 years.

Cyio 01-09-2025 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by EMBFlyer (Post 3869037)
Question for those complaining about working at FedEx, working nights and Memphis:

What did you think we do?! We fly nights. That's the overnight package delivery industry. World Headquarters is in Memphis. Neither one of thse things has changed in 52 years.

I agree; that would be like coming to WN and being upset that you don't do one-leg days and wide-body flying.

coryk 01-09-2025 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by EMBFlyer (Post 3869037)
Question for those complaining about working at FedEx, working nights and Memphis:

What did you think we do?! We fly nights. That's the overnight package delivery industry. World Headquarters is in Memphis. Neither one of thse things has changed in 52 years.

Actually no. Half the domestic flying was daytime. 4 years ago, there were bases in Hong Kong, Cologne, Germany, and LA. There was talk of increasing manning in IND. ANC had two airplanes based there.

Now look. What people came to FedEx for and what FedEx is currently offering is wildly different. Sad truth.

EMBFlyer 01-09-2025 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by coryk (Post 3869080)
Actually no. Half the domestic flying was daytime. 4 years ago, there were bases in Hong Kong, Cologne, Germany, and LA. There was talk of increasing manning in IND. ANC had two airplanes based there.

Now look. What people came to FedEx for and what FedEx is currently offering is wildly different. Sad truth.

But in the overall history of FedEx, historically, what have we done?

I didn't come here with the notion that I'd never fly nights or never see Memphis. I was realistic.

That's like saying, I want to go to Delta, but I can't stand Atlanta or I want to go to UPS, but I can't ever see myself wearing brown pants.

PilotBases 01-10-2025 04:15 AM


Originally Posted by EMBFlyer (Post 3869112)
But in the overall history of FedEx, historically, what have we done?

I didn't come here with the notion that I'd never fly nights or never see Memphis. I was realistic.

That's like saying, I want to go to Delta, but I can't stand Atlanta or I want to go to UPS, but I can't ever see myself wearing brown pants.

That’s every pilot at the air line except ATL based bubbas.


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