Odd question for long haul pilots
02-24-2024, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Halon1211
I am an NK pilot actively looking to get out, one alluring thing about a legacy is the long haul flying. But the other day I got a layover in LIM and as I was lying in bed I got this weird “what if something happened and I needed to get back home ASAP” feeling. Like if this was ATL and something urgent happened (Family member rushed to the ER, house is on fire, ect.) then there are tons of flights from ATL back to home or I just rent a car and be home in a few hours.
Kinda brushed it off then it happened again on a GYE layover. Got this weird feeling of being helpless for my family far away from home. Again being in the states is one thing vs. being somewhere further away where it takes longer to get back home if something happens. This feeling was so horrible I never want to do those trips again.
Now I can’t even imagine doing actual long haul flying and being even further away like Asia or Africa and it would take even further to get home.
back in my 20’s I used to travel the world and never gave it another thought. Now that I’m married and have kids I just get this uneasy helpless feeling for my family. Even stuff like what if there was an earthquake where I’m at or another 9/11 and it’s a long time before I can get back to them.
Does anyone else get this weird phobia? If so how did you deal with it and does it get better? Or maybe it never goes away and long haul flying isn’t for me? Thanks.
Kinda brushed it off then it happened again on a GYE layover. Got this weird feeling of being helpless for my family far away from home. Again being in the states is one thing vs. being somewhere further away where it takes longer to get back home if something happens. This feeling was so horrible I never want to do those trips again.
Now I can’t even imagine doing actual long haul flying and being even further away like Asia or Africa and it would take even further to get home.
back in my 20’s I used to travel the world and never gave it another thought. Now that I’m married and have kids I just get this uneasy helpless feeling for my family. Even stuff like what if there was an earthquake where I’m at or another 9/11 and it’s a long time before I can get back to them.
Does anyone else get this weird phobia? If so how did you deal with it and does it get better? Or maybe it never goes away and long haul flying isn’t for me? Thanks.
Coast to coast in the US is 6-7hrs depending on season. A coastal base to an overseas city pair is usually 8-12. Depending on the time of day there may not be much difference in travel time.
Option 1) wait for the company DH home on the next available flight.
Option 2) buy a ticket on the next flight going from the overseas city to CONUS and work the jumpseat domestically from there.
You typically work a bunch less days to get the same credit on the widebody so theres also more of a chance that you wouldn't be gone from home in the event of an emergency.
02-24-2024, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
Exactly what I was thinking. Sadly people are taking the bait.
but this is something I genuinely get.
02-24-2024, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Halon1211
do you not think this is valid? When I do troll they are pretty obvious.
but this is something I genuinely get.
but this is something I genuinely get.
02-24-2024, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Halon1211
do you not think this is valid? When I do troll they are pretty obvious.
but this is something I genuinely get.
but this is something I genuinely get.
02-24-2024, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Halon1211
I am an NK pilot actively looking to get out, one alluring thing about a legacy is the long haul flying. But the other day I got a layover in LIM and as I was lying in bed I got this weird “what if something happened and I needed to get back home ASAP” feeling. Like if this was ATL and something urgent happened (Family member rushed to the ER, house is on fire, ect.) then there are tons of flights from ATL back to home or I just rent a car and be home in a few hours.
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02-25-2024, 04:37 AM
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At the end of the day, long haul flying is highly overrated. Notwithstanding the boredom but possible lack of operational experience. Because of lack of recent experience, some may visit the training center to become requalified. Recency of experience is tracked by the company to avoid these bumps in the road. However cr@p happens.
It's an abbreviated training/check ride event.[/size]
and....
Usually not to common, and being a non-event event. However, its is, sort of a minnie career day.
§ 121.439 Pilot qualification: Recent experience.
§ 121.439 Pilot qualification: Recent experience.
(a) No certificate holder may use any person nor may any person serve as a required pilot flightcrew member, unless within the preceding 90 days, that person has made at least three takeoffs and landings in the type airplane in which that person is to serve[size=33px]
(b) In addition to meeting all applicable training and checking requirements of this part, a required pilot flightcrew member who has not met the requirements of paragraph (a) of this section must re-establish recency of experience as follows:
(1) Under the supervision of a check airman, make at least three takeoffs and landings in the type airplane in which that person is to serve or in a Level B or higher FFS.
(2) The takeoffs and landings required in paragraph (b)(1) of this section must include—
(i) At least one takeoff with a simulated failure of the most critical powerplant;
(ii) At least one landing from an ILS approach to the lowest ILS minimum authorized for the certificate holder; and
(iii) At least one landing to a full stop.
(1) Under the supervision of a check airman, make at least three takeoffs and landings in the type airplane in which that person is to serve or in a Level B or higher FFS.
(2) The takeoffs and landings required in paragraph (b)(1) of this section must include—
(i) At least one takeoff with a simulated failure of the most critical powerplant;
(ii) At least one landing from an ILS approach to the lowest ILS minimum authorized for the certificate holder; and
(iii) At least one landing to a full stop.
(e) A check airman who observes the takeoffs and landings prescribed in paragraph (b)(1) of this section shall certify that the person being observed is proficient and qualified to perform flight duty in operations under this part and may require any additional maneuvers that are determined necessary to make this certifying statement.
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