Will Embrarer fill the void left by Boeing?
05-07-2024 | 06:11 PM
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Will Embrarer fill the void left by Boeing?
05-07-2024 | 07:18 PM
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05-07-2024 | 10:55 PM
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05-08-2024 | 08:22 AM
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Yeah the hump (very big hump) is the US scope clauses right smack in the middle of their obvious NB growth path.
They can't market a 180-seater out of the blue... they would be crushed by both BCA and AB. Deliberately.
Their potential path would be to establish a customer base and product support niche in the 100-seat range and gradually sneak in bigger planes. But scope...
The US isn't the only place you can sell planes, but China will eventually build exportable NB's, and the non-US market is what they're going to target. So competition everywhere. I can't really blame Embraer for staying in their niche.
They can't market a 180-seater out of the blue... they would be crushed by both BCA and AB. Deliberately.
Their potential path would be to establish a customer base and product support niche in the 100-seat range and gradually sneak in bigger planes. But scope...
The US isn't the only place you can sell planes, but China will eventually build exportable NB's, and the non-US market is what they're going to target. So competition everywhere. I can't really blame Embraer for staying in their niche.
05-10-2024 | 08:22 PM
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Crushed? They can barely keep up and stay profitable. If Embraer wants to make a competing NB, they will. It’s all about resources.
05-10-2024 | 10:06 PM
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05-11-2024 | 09:24 AM
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Yeah the hump (very big hump) is the US scope clauses right smack in the middle of their obvious NB growth path.
They can't market a 180-seater out of the blue... they would be crushed by both BCA and AB. Deliberately.
Their potential path would be to establish a customer base and product support niche in the 100-seat range and gradually sneak in bigger planes. But scope...
The US isn't the only place you can sell planes, but China will eventually build exportable NB's, and the non-US market is what they're going to target. So competition everywhere. I can't really blame Embraer for staying in their niche.
They can't market a 180-seater out of the blue... they would be crushed by both BCA and AB. Deliberately.
Their potential path would be to establish a customer base and product support niche in the 100-seat range and gradually sneak in bigger planes. But scope...
The US isn't the only place you can sell planes, but China will eventually build exportable NB's, and the non-US market is what they're going to target. So competition everywhere. I can't really blame Embraer for staying in their niche.
It also makes more sense in the US than most other high income countries. We have a huge landmass full of small to medium sized cities with airports. China and Russia also fit this description but are middle income.
05-11-2024 | 11:45 AM
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They had every intention of pushing up the size and efficiency of their aircraft offerings but ran afoul of the US scope clauses like the larger E2 series. Then there was the reluctance of Brazil to give up the Embraer defense branch of the company to Boeing that did in the planned sale to Boeing. But they have every skill set needed to build something bigger and competitive.
https://www.financialexpress.com/bus...-iaf-3389594/#
https://www.financialexpress.com/bus...-iaf-3389594/#
Bombardier should have launched the -500 first.
They would have to spend a fortune to sell what it already does. Airbus only has to put it into production when the time is right. They also should have bought the CRJ support, I think Mitsubishi is lost with that.
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