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word302 01-22-2025 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by GoodJet (Post 3873893)
What agreements don't consider 30 hrs of rest a day off? Because that is the majority of my time off on reserve where I work.

If they can get you a 30+ hour layover somewhere they don’t have to give you a day off at home. SkyWest did that all the time.

fcoolaiddrinker 01-22-2025 07:58 PM


Originally Posted by word302 (Post 3873945)
If they can get you a 30+ hour layover somewhere they don’t have to give you a day off at home. SkyWest did that all the time.

Yup. That’s why in the alpa standard definition of day off it states in domicile.

word302 01-22-2025 08:05 PM


Originally Posted by fcoolaiddrinker (Post 3873971)
Yup. That’s why in the alpa standard definition of day off it states in domicile.

SkyWest pilots:

”What’s ALPA?”

fcoolaiddrinker 01-22-2025 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by word302 (Post 3873973)
SkyWest pilots:

”What’s ALPA?”

so they could take you below min contractual days off with that? That’s pretty bad if that’s the case. You could potentially not be home the whole month.

fcoolaiddrinker 01-22-2025 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by GoodJet (Post 3873893)
What agreements don't consider 30 hrs of rest a day off? Because that is the majority of my time off on reserve where I work.

I might be misunderstanding your second sentence because it could be read two different ways but this might help anyhow. There is no such thing as time off on res. If your on reserve your on duty. With long call after notification you’re now resting the required 10 hrs. Still not meeting the definition of calendar day off most of the time. That’s why long call traditionally was at least 12 hrs. Time for notification then rest. Without looking at some of these new agreements I don’t believe it’s ever possible to get the 30hr rest requirement with a block of at least 7 res duty periods. There’s contractual ways to deal with this problem. Just separate 117 while in a block of res periods and contractually defined days off.

word302 01-22-2025 10:23 PM


Originally Posted by fcoolaiddrinker (Post 3873974)
so they could take you below min contractual days off with that? That’s pretty bad if that’s the case. You could potentially not be home the whole month.

What’s a “contract”. Kidding aside I never saw them drop below min days off in the policy manual.

Swakid8 01-23-2025 04:53 AM

Why is so hard just to say....

Hard days Off is Off...

Days not used on reserve as Unused Rsv Days....

.....

Roper92 01-23-2025 06:13 AM


Originally Posted by Swakid8 (Post 3874015)
Why is so hard just to say....

Hard days Off is Off...

Days not used on reserve as Unused Rsv Days....

.....

Thats fine but I think there should be a distinction between LC & SC. BIG difference between the two.

OOfff 01-23-2025 07:38 AM


Originally Posted by Swakid8 (Post 3874015)
Why is so hard just to say....

Hard days Off is Off...

Days not used on reserve as Unused Rsv Days....

.....

because the point is measurement. my day off is bigger than your day off. if not for the spirit of competition in these threads, there would be no question

notEnuf 01-23-2025 03:39 PM

It is in the regular line holders best interest to not acknowledge the QOL of a reserve line. I as an internet braggard need to let people know how good I have it and they don't. That and my contrarian nature to argue regardless of my personal opinion. Also, they are wrong but commute or excuse it some other way like tradition etc. I'm glad they fail to realize the superiority of reserve because that would jepordize my QOL.


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