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Originally Posted by MaxQ
(Post 4031742)
Iran's HMFIC was killed on day one.
Soooo..... So? Also, do you honestly believe that was “day 1”? . |
Originally Posted by word302
(Post 4031743)
Of course it’s simplistic.
Do I blame the current administration for all of Spirit’s problems? No Do I think fuel costs sealed their fate this week? Yes Do I think Spirit management has been failing at their jobs for almost 1/2 a decade now? Also yes. Do I think Spirit is the only carrier that won’t survive this? No. Pretty simple. Assuming, of course, their competitors were also getting $2.60/gal fuel? |
Originally Posted by Excargodog
(Post 4031805)
So at $2.60 a gallon for Jet A, how many additional weeks do you believe they MIGHT have survived?
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Originally Posted by MaxQ
(Post 4031717)
You are correct Cargo.
But it was the immediate and proximate cause. It doesn't have to be even "blaming the administration". It was in response to Vax saying the predictions of furloughs hadn't come to pass. Well, they now have. It was the proverbial straw and it is pedantic spin to try and say that "well they don't count" because they were already sick. I worked for one of the 3 majors that closed their doors in Nov. 1991. It is quite likely that none of them would have been in business by the end of 1992. But it is an empirical fact that the first gulf war was the reason that the shut down occurred in Nov '91. It is disingenuous to say elsewise. Fwiw, I wouldn’t want to work for beach boy Comey. Far too shiftless. But I respect and believe him. For everything, there really is a season:) |
Originally Posted by METO Guido
(Post 4031854)
the longer this drags on, the more likely furloughs for the weakest to follow. Chitty business sometimes.
Fwiw, I wouldn’t want to work for beach boy Comey. Far too shiftless. But I respect and believe him. For everything, there really is a season:) |
Originally Posted by AAdvocate
(Post 4031860)
How do you get to keep responding to this yet our response get blocked? Mods, what's the deal?
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Originally Posted by AAdvocate
(Post 4031860)
How do you get to keep responding to this yet our response get blocked? Mods, what's the deal?
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No one is arguing that fuel prices was not the final nail in the Spirit coffin. Obviously that tipped them over the (tenuous and teetering) edge. If it wasn’t fuel prices, it would very likely have been something else in the near term.
But to pretend that Spirit is some kind of bellwether and confirmation of early predictions of “Black Swan!” and “industry furloughs are imminent!” is massively disingenuous. And, I would argue reveals some genuine bias and/or willful ignorance. |
Originally Posted by METO Guido
(Post 4031863)
tradecraft. Otherspeak, lingo, sign, blink. Use your imagination. Never give up on the co.
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
(Post 4031866)
I see you have posted the same response like 5 or 6 times. I’m not sure why you can’t see your own posts.
Originally Posted by MaxQ
(Post 4031717)
You are correct Cargo.
But it was the immediate and proximate cause. It doesn't have to be even "blaming the administration". It was in response to Vax saying the predictions of furloughs hadn't come to pass. Well, they now have. It was the proverbial straw and it is pedantic spin to try and say that "well they don't count" because they were already sick. I worked for one of the 3 majors that closed their doors in Nov. 1991. It is quite likely that none of them would have been in business by the end of 1992. But it is an empirical fact that the first gulf war was the reason that the shut down occurred in Nov '91. It is disingenuous to say elsewise. |
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