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Old 03-19-2026 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by AYLflyer
The Pentagon is asking for an additional $200 billion for the war. I thought it was announced that we already won this thing after the first few days? Also where is this money coming from? The first year of this administration was all about cutting spending and cutting programs, departments and increasing efficiency. Now we're okay just spending more on foreign wars?

(This is not a partisan statement, this is a direct question from an upset American who is again seeing his tax dollars burned on a Middle East conflict while so much is needed here at home). We were promised no new conflicts, what gives?
The ground invasion isn't going to pay for itself, and Israel certainly isn't going to be cutting us a check either.

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/03/19/netanyahu-trump-us-israel-iran-ground-component.html

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Old 03-19-2026 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
I also do not have TDS, so I can analyze the administration's behavior based on the merits.
See, that’s the problem. The insinuation is one cannot analyze the administration behavior based on merits, without having “TDS.”

I, along with other reasonable people, reject that notion.
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Old 03-19-2026 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Hubcapped
So we are asking the Chinese to help us in iran now? Is this real life or a Saturday night live skit?

Even better.

We're asking Iran to help US in Iran now.

Secretary of the Treasury babbling about how we'll "unsanction" Iranian oil if it becomes necessary.

Jack Handy level statecraft thinking here.
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Old 03-19-2026 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by N39E002
The ground invasion isn't going to pay for itself, and Israel certainly isn't going to be cutting us a check either.
something something, the oil will pay for it, something

Donald Rumseld, probably.
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Old 03-19-2026 | 07:15 PM
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All beside the point bs. War on 2 fronts, global energy markets in chaos, government workers left unpaid, DHS sec shagging her boyfriend/bagman while jerking the boss. Truth stranger than fiction.
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Old 03-19-2026 | 07:53 PM
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Italy, Belgium set to lose gas supply after world’s biggest LNG plant bombed

Damage to a major gas production facility could take five years to repair, QatarEnergy’s CEO told Reuters.



MARCH 19, 2026 4:55 PM CET
BY BEN MAKUCH, ELENA GIORDANO, FREDERIKE HOLEWIK, NICHOLAS EARL AND BEN MUNSTERBRUSSELS — Europe's insistence that it doesn't face an energy supply crisis took a blow Thursday when Qatar warned it would have to scrap contracts with Italy and Belgium following a massive Iranian attack.

QatarEnergy CEO Saad al-Kaabi told Reuters on Thursday it would have to cancel long-term liquefied natural gas supply contracts for up to five years after an Iranian ballistic missile knocked out a significant share of its production capacity in the Persian Gulf.

The state-owned company, which produces a fifth of the world's LNG, said the damage could impact deliveries to Italy, Belgium, South Korea and China"These are long-term contracts that we have to declare force majeure," al-Kaabi said.

On Wednesday Iran bombed the Ras Laffan gas plant in Qatar. The ballistic missile attack, which followed an Israeli attack on Iran’s South Pars gas field, caused "sizeable fires and extensive further damage," QatarEnergy said in a post on X.

The strikes damaged two of Qatar’s 14 liquefied natural gas trains and one gas-to-liquids facility, QatarEnergy said Thursday. The outages will remove around 12.8 million tons of LNG annually from the market, roughly 17 percent of Qatar’s total export capacity and around 3 percent of global supply, for an estimated three to five years.

The strikes mark a major escalation in regional tensions. Qatar’s LNG plant had already been offline following a previous drone strike, but the latest damage is expected to significantly prolong the disruption.

Gas markets reacted sharply on Thursday, with European futures jumping as much as 35 percent to more than double pre-conflict levels, underscoring the risk of a prolonged supply shock.

The outage leaves major buyers in Europe and Asia scrambling to replace lost volumes, raising concerns over energy security and the potential for sustained price pressure as competition for alternative LNG cargoes intensifies.

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Earlier on Thursday German Energy Minister Katherina Reiche had downplayed the impact of the war, saying: “What we in Europe don't have is a physical bottleneck." She insisted the EU’s gas supplies are still flowing from Norway, the U.S., Kazakhstan and other countries.

But Reiche said while she doesn't believe the current situation is as serious as the 2022 shock following Russia's invasion of Ukraine, “the current situation is also causing us concern,” and that it's critical for Europe to continue to “monitor this crisis and make careful decisions.”

Her comments came as EU leaders met for high-level talks in Brussels on Thursday, with energy one of the top issues.

In 2022 Germany depended on Russia for more than half of its gas, but now relies on Norway and the Netherlands for the majority, importing some LNG from the U.S. It is not dependent on Qatari LNG.

Other EU countries including Poland, Italy and Belgium depend on the Middle East country for a larger percentages of their LNG.

Poland said Thursday its gas supplies "are secured," adding Qatari LNG only accounts for 10 percent of the country's total gas supply. "[T]his volume can be gradually supplemented with supplies from other sources, if necessary," said Grzegorz Łaguna, a spokesperson for Poland's Ministry of Energy."Deliveries for March are being made, and there is currently no information indicating any significant risks to meeting current demand for natural gas, including the continued restrictions on supplies from Qatar," he added.

The U.K. government and regulators also played down fears of a supply shock. "The U.K. has very strong energy supplies from a diverse range of sources," said Energy Minister Michael Shanks on Tuesday. But the country has just two days’ worth of gas supplies currently in storage, according to reports based on National Gas data.

U.K. Green Party leader Zack Polanski has demanded the government freeze bills in July, when the cap is set to jump hundreds of pounds. Chancellor Rachel Reeves insists support should be “targeted” only at the poorest families, wanting to avoid a rerun of the eye-watering sums spent by the last government to protect all households and businesses after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in 2022.

India and China’s reliance on disrupted Middle East gas supplies has already caused price hikes and questions about European gas reserves.

“Geopolitics continue shaping gas and LNG markets, and despite the industry's large scale, it lacks flexibility to absorb major disruptions, creating market volatility,” said Kristy Kramer, head of LNG strategy and market development at Wood Mackenzie. “How the industry responds to this event will vary, but we expect buyers to prioritise LNG supply security with a renewed focus on diversity.”









https://www.politico.eu/article/ital...-plant-bombed/
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Old 03-19-2026 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog

Italy, Belgium set to lose gas supply after world’s biggest LNG plant bombed

Damage to a major gas production facility could take five years to repair, QatarEnergy’s CEO told Reuters.
It's almost comical how bad this is, and how rapidly it's deteriorating.

$200b war just to start, $1T annual deficit, all asset classes falling except energy, and America quickly losing its post-war reputation as the world leader.

#CantStopWinning
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Old 03-19-2026 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Name User
It's almost comical how bad this is, and how rapidly it's deteriorating.

$200b war just to start, $1T annual deficit, all asset classes falling except energy, and America quickly losing its post-war reputation as the world leader.

#CantStopWinning
So, in your considered opinion, is what this is heading for better or worse than prewar Iran getting working ICBMs with nuclear warheads?
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Old 03-19-2026 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
So, in your considered opinion, is what this is heading for better or worse than prewar Iran getting working ICBMs with nuclear warheads?
That was nowhere close to imminent. Literally not even close. So yes, it’s now worse today.
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Old 03-19-2026 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
That was nowhere close to imminent. Literally not even close. So yes, it’s now worse today.
So how close is your definition of “imminent”?

And do you seriously believe after 47 years of chanting “Death to America!” they were going to suddenly mellow out in the non-imminent time you believe we still had?

So what would you assume would have been the advanyage of letting that day get even closer?
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