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Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 4014919)
"This all bad and will only get worse" is just TDS. Stop talking about me, just stick to current events.
The Pentagon just asked for a $200 Billion supplemental. Enough to fund the war for another year at least. They know it's going to be nothing but mission creep from here on out. Everyone thought George Foreman was winning the Rumble in the Jungle. Ali was up against the ropes while Foreman was unloading huge volleys of punches on him. But poor George exhausted himself, and Ali took over. We're expending millions of dollars per missile to take out Shahed flying bombs that can be assembled in a garage. It's hubris to go into this Rope-A-Dope blindly. And hubris has been this administration's motto. |
Originally Posted by flyprdu
(Post 4014922)
Also... "Rise up! Take your country back!"
Also... How do you plan on finding the 400 kilos of enriched Uranium in a country the size of Alaska? |
Originally Posted by AAdvocate
(Post 4014918)
Been pretty clear to me. If you get your news from the Ladies of The View then yes you would probably think that.
- Desultory Iran's missile base so they can never rebuild - Destroy their Navy - Make sure they never have the capability to develop a nuclear weapon -I’m not sure specifically what you mean by missile bases. We have total air domination and have essentially run out of targets. Barring regime change or boots on the ground, how do we make sure “they can never rebuild”. What will stop them from rebuilding, assuming we aren’t there forever occasionally dropping JDAMs? -their navy is already destroyed -again, barring regime change or BOG, how do we ensure they don’t start again? How do we get the nuclear material that is scattered got knows where all over Iran? |
Originally Posted by CBreezy
(Post 4014916)
With all due respect, why isn't there the same condemnation for insults lobbed towards those of us who don't support this war. So far I've been called a libtard, TSA, implied I'm antisemitic, said I hate America and support terrorists and even supported the Oct 7 massacre.
There's no need in these thread to discuss or reference domestic politics or voters. |
Originally Posted by Extenda
(Post 4014932)
I don’t watch the view. I’m basing my point on listening to direct, shifting, frequently contradictory statements from POTUS and high level cabinet members.
-I’m not sure specifically what you mean by missile bases. We have total air domination and have essentially run out of targets. Barring regime change or boots on the ground, how do we make sure “they can never rebuild”. What will stop them from rebuilding, assuming we aren’t there forever occasionally dropping JDAMs? -their navy is already destroyed -again, barring regime change or BOG, how do we ensure they don’t start again? How do we get the nuclear material that is scattered got knows where all over Iran? |
Originally Posted by AAdvocate
(Post 4014935)
Wow, so you are in saying in only two short weeks we have accomplished 80% of our military objectives? God Bless the USA (I hope that dose of patriotism didn't trigger some of you as I know it tends to do sometimes)
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Originally Posted by AAdvocate
(Post 4014935)
Wow, so you are in saying in only two short weeks we have accomplished 80% of our military objectives? God Bless the USA (I hope that dose of patriotism didn't trigger some of you as I know it tends to do sometimes)
But don’t you see the pickle we’re in? Iran has no incentive now to not just launch 1000 dollar drones from pickup trucks whenever they want to keep the straight closed. Barring regime change or boots on the ground a trillion dollar military CAN’T stop that. |
Originally Posted by BrazilBusDriver
(Post 4014927)
You’re a Navy guy, right Rick? Not asking you to dip into the high side, but what capabilities do we have/need to effectuate that outcome?
I feel like there was probably a big ways/means/ends, forces/capabilities/effects, enemy actions/counters conversation somewhere in a SCIF in Tampa. And it was effectively a field grade circle jerk because this was either somehow overlooked or the pentagon and the admin didn’t care or know to care that it would be a problem. Either way, huge swing and miss. We entered the conflict on our terms. And the spot price of Jet-A is now $4.26 according to A4A. Gonna be an interesting fall/winter if this keeps up. Nobody in the SCIF had any illusions about the SoH, I was frankly surprised that IR waited as long as they did. Mitigation measures were devised, but ultimately it was going to come to NCA as to whether gain would be worth the pain. NCA decided (I assume he was briefed on the plan). |
Originally Posted by AAdvocate
(Post 4014935)
Wow, so you are in saying in only two short weeks we have accomplished 80% of our military objectives? God Bless the USA (I hope that dose of patriotism didn't trigger some of you as I know it tends to do sometimes)
That's not the same as overall operational, or strategic, objectives. |
Originally Posted by Extenda
(Post 4014937)
But don’t you see the pickle we’re in? Iran has no incentive now to not just launch 1000 dollar drones from pickup trucks whenever they want to keep the straight closed. Barring regime change or boots on the ground a trillion dollar military CAN’T stop that.
This whole thing is a mess (which is why no previous admin went there). But it's a bigger mess for IR. |
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