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N39E002 03-20-2026 09:58 AM

I would disagree that we fight wars to expand democratic governance. It's a nice myth though.

If it was said we fought wars for corporations, oil rights, global hegemony and Zionism perhaps there would be less willing participation?

Heck, it's coded in federal law we don't do business with counties that participate in genocide. America is at best an amoral entity.

BrazilBusDriver 03-20-2026 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by ThumbsUp (Post 4014884)
completely different class of nuttery.

"Hey, a guy on the internet had a different opinion about something. I should tell him he's insane."

ThumbsUp 03-20-2026 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by BrazilBusDriver (Post 4014891)
"Hey, a guy on the internet had a different opinion about something. I should tell him he's insane."

I was referring to Iran vs DPRK. They’re both crazy. One just is terrorist crazy.

METO Guido 03-20-2026 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 4014875)
Why do certain races insist on bombing other races to force their own culture/values onto others?

Brown people didn’t asked to be bombed, which is what we’ve been doing since the Gulf War.

Shelled brown/yellow people in Native territories, Mexico, Japan, Korea, Nam, ME. Hope I didn’t leave anyone out? Ugly business. Probably woulda came out different they had mirvs. Some chances you just can’t afford to take.

AAdvocate 03-20-2026 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by BrazilBusDriver (Post 4014879)
Anyway, who's talking about C-17s full of pallets of cash here? And how do I get ahold of one? (Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know - JPCOA/sanctions lifting).

Subscribe to race based politics and believe in the Oppressed vs. Oppressor matrix. Then open up a day care center in Minnesota or a Hospice in California. Pallets full of money will come your way.

AAdvocate 03-20-2026 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 4014880)
Newsflash: Not everyone needs our way of life. Their country, their choice. They don’t need us to bomb them to democracy.

Don't give a **** if they are a democracy or not. I do give a **** if said country sponsors terror and has programs to develop nuclear weapons. You're arguing with yourself here.

flyprdu 03-20-2026 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 4014795)
As I keep saying, don't get too wrapped in bOotS oN GRoUnD.

A few Boots touching ground isn't the problem.

A lot of Boots staying on the ground would be a problem, and a very big one WRT to IR (much worse than OIF/OEF). For the US. IL seems to be talking up the need for BoG this week, perhaps they're hoping we'll do that for them?

Trump promises "No boots on the ground." You: "Good."
Trump immediately breaks that promise by deploying ground forces with "limited scope." You: "Also good."

Maybe the real TDS is the blind loyalty that permits Trump and others to say anything, do anything, and get away with everything.

AAdvocate 03-20-2026 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by flyprdu (Post 4014901)
Trump promises "No boots on the ground." You: "Good."
Trump immediately breaks that promise by deploying ground forces with "limited scope." You: "Also good."

Maybe the real TDS is the blind loyalty that permits Trump and others to say anything, do anything, and get away with everything.

Both can be true. No boots on ground to accomplish objectives is amazing. However if troops on ground is needed to accomplish certain objectives then you need to do what you need to do. Obviously nobody wants another Iraq or Afghanistan and if this becomes a long term thing then yes even Trump will lose support from his most arduous supporters.

Extenda 03-20-2026 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by AAdvocate (Post 4014904)
Both can be true. No boots on ground to accomplish objectives is amazing. However if troops on ground is needed to accomplish certain objectives then you need to do what you need to do. Obviously nobody wants another Iraq or Afghanistan and if this becomes a long term thing then yes even Trump will lose support from his most arduous supporters.

What are the “certain objectives”? They keep changing…sometimes hourly.

rickair7777 03-20-2026 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by flyprdu (Post 4014901)
Trump promises "No boots on the ground." You: "Good."
Trump immediately breaks that promise by deploying ground forces with "limited scope." You: "Also good."

Maybe the real TDS is the blind loyalty that permits Trump and others to say anything, do anything, and get away with everything.

Knock off the insults. I have zero loyalty to Trump or any of his minions (aside from that required by duty to my oath of office).


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