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FangsF15 03-22-2026 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by Hubcapped (Post 4015489)
You just completely evaded an answer . Did you watch the deposition of our head of intelligence or not? That is not a bias, its HER direct words. So, what are your thoughts? You wanted to play the game mod or not. The head of our intelligence refuted (subjectively) your claim. Be a stand up flight lead and own the debrief my friend.

No, I didn’t evade. I answered your question in good faith. Go reread it. I’m not getting dragged into this slop.

METO Guido 03-22-2026 05:49 AM


Originally Posted by FangsF15 (Post 4015480)
Honestly, I don’t know. It’s hard to separate the various biases, which includes media reporting, and know what the real truth is.

Certainly is. Reassuring to know His Truth marches on.


FangsF15 03-22-2026 05:51 AM


Originally Posted by AYLflyer (Post 4015481)
Maybe, just maybe, the greatest nation in the world with the most powerful and advanced military in this history of humanity should really make sure that their assessment is correct before alienating allies and creating a worldwide economic disaster.

Maybe, just maybe, they did, to the best of their knowledge and belief. None of us know what intel was briefed behind closed doors. In time, I’m sure someone (or several) with an agenda (or competing agendas) will leak it.

Lowslung 03-22-2026 06:01 AM


Originally Posted by AYLflyer (Post 4015481)
Maybe, just maybe, the greatest nation in the world with the most powerful and advanced military in this history of humanity should really make sure that their assessment is correct before alienating allies and creating a worldwide economic disaster.

Or, even better: Take into account the facts that intelligence assessments are often flawed, incomplete, or flat out wrong, that wars often become messy, unpredictable, and uncontrollable, that the enemy gets a vote, and that there is no greater ask of the American people than that of sending their sons and daughters into battle. This is never an endeavor to be taken lightly. And yet every single indication so far suggests that the administration has not done any more due diligence than their usual none. In fact, I’m surprised we didn’t see Elon Musk on stage waving a chainsaw around to kick off the party.

Buck Rogers 03-22-2026 06:10 AM


Originally Posted by Lowslung (Post 4015505)
Or, even better: Take into account the facts that intelligence assessments are often flawed, incomplete, or flat out wrong, that wars often become messy, unpredictable, and uncontrollable, that the enemy gets a vote, and that there is no greater ask of the American people than that of sending their sons and daughters into battle. This is never an endeavor to be taken lightly.

That ^^^^ sounds fairly logical.


And yet every single indication so far suggests that the administration has not done any more due diligence than their usual none. In fact, I’m surprised we didn’t see Elon Musk on stage waving a chainsaw around to kick off the party.
And that ^^^^^ sounds totally illogical, and dare I say...partisan?

Lowslung 03-22-2026 07:06 AM


Originally Posted by Buck Rogers (Post 4015507)
That ^^^^ sounds fairly logical.



And that ^^^^^ sounds totally illogical, and dare I say...partisan?

Just an observation my friend. I understand there are many reasons for many Americans to like the direction the current admin is going. While I don’t share too many of those reasons, I’d like to think that any objective observer could agree that caution and measure are not strengths generally shared by the current CINC and the people he’s surrounded himself with. Happy to entertain any counter argument you may have with that thought.

Excargodog 03-22-2026 08:20 AM

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Excargodog 03-22-2026 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by Lowslung (Post 4015513)
Just an observation my friend. I understand there are many reasons for many Americans to like the direction the current admin is going. While I don’t share too many of those reasons, I’d like to think that any objective observer could agree that caution and measure are not strengths generally shared by the current CINC and the people he’s surrounded himself with. Happy to entertain any counter argument you may have with that thought.

I think that I might agree with that latter opinion. Although I have to wonder if it is innate to his personality or a function of how many people, even in his own party and the Washington establishment, tried to stab him in the back during his first term. The near miss in the public assassination couldn’t have helped either.

It’s a tough job under the best of circumstances. And corporate Washington DC never has liked outsiders. It chewed up Jimmy Carter.

Chimpy 03-22-2026 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 4015538)
I think that I might agree with that latter opinion. Although I have to wonder if it is innate to his personality or a function of how many people, even in his own party and the Washington establishment, tried to stab him in the back during his first term. The near miss in the public assassination couldn’t have helped either.

It’s a tough job under the best of circumstances. And corporate Washington DC never has liked outsiders. It chewed up Jimmy Carter.

lol, so Trumps a Victim now? He is a horrific leader, his latest Tweet about Mueller says it all. (and I voted for him, so shame on me)

Hubcapped 03-22-2026 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 4015533)

OK, as much as I despise you, give credit or credit is due. This was top notch. Made me laugh


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