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JamesNoBrakes 03-26-2026 08:14 PM

This is like listening to General Turgidson

madmax757 03-27-2026 04:07 AM


Originally Posted by MtoL (Post 4017183)
And yet, it was a foreseeable consequence of their vote...

Take a broader look and see what’s happening in Asia , Australia and Europe. Some widebody guys may be getting some extended layovers when there’s no Jet A to fill up your plane. They are actually having shortages . If it continues to escalate and mines start hitting ships in the gulf, it’s anyone’s guess .

https://simpleflying.com/airline-jet-fuel-shortage-running-dry-warning-weeks/

vaksedtothemax 03-27-2026 06:12 AM


Originally Posted by Name User (Post 4017134)
You're really cocky when Jet A is $4/gal and not falling below that, which adds roughly $7b a year to each legacy's costs.


nope, the prediction was a 9/11, Great Recession type event for the industry. A/C order Cancellations, furloughs and oil at $150.

The debate wasn’t about disruptions to gas prices that are still lower than 3 yrs ago or 15 yrs ago.

Up until the point that happens all the few here are doing is trying to find any talking point that tries to prove themselves correct. Last week it was “nobody planned for Iran to attack/restrict the SOH.” Before that it was “Trump is being run by Isreal” even though he’s been talking about Iran for decades, well before he became 45 & 47.


Excargodog 03-27-2026 06:23 AM


Originally Posted by madmax757 (Post 4017203)
Take a broader look and see what’s happening in Asia , Australia and Europe. Some widebody guys may be getting some extended layovers when there’s no Jet A to fill up your plane. They are actually having shortages . If it continues to escalate and mines start hitting ships in the gulf, it’s anyone’s guess .

https://simpleflying.com/airline-jet...warning-weeks/

Perhaps it’s time for Europe and Asia to actually pony up some resources to help insure the right of passage in the strait of Hormuz and enforce maritime free access. We’ve been carrying far more than our fair share of policing the oceans since the Marines took Tripoli.

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ugleeual 03-27-2026 06:31 AM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 4017233)
Perhaps it’s time for Europe and Asia to actually pony up some resources to help insure the right of passage in the strait of Hormuz and enforce maritime free access. We’ve been carrying far more than our fair share of policing the oceans since the Marines took Tripoli.

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^^^ THIS ^^^ all these countries have become accustomed to the U.S. being the police force and spending all the $$$ and resources to protect their interests… needs to stop.

METO Guido 03-27-2026 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 4017233)
Perhaps it’s time for Europe and Asia to actually pony up some resources to help insure the right of passage in the strait of Hormuz and enforce maritime free access. We’ve been carrying far more than our fair share of policing the oceans since the Marines took Tripoli.

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Tripoli! Lindsey hears that, he’ll go ballistic.

usmc-sgt 03-27-2026 07:12 AM


Originally Posted by vaxedtothemax (Post 4017256)
When I ask what the military protocol is for hats Shyguy quickly pivots.

Indoors only when under arms. At least that was the policy from the greatest branch there ever was.

CX500T 03-27-2026 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by usmc-sgt (Post 4017264)
Indoors only when under arms. At least that was the policy from the greatest branch there ever was.

I love when the hat debate comes up and they go "but in the military..."

"IN THE MILITARY I DIDN'T WEAR HATS INSIDE UNLESS ARMED" (rare exceptions for things like retirement and promotion in quasi indoor spaces like hangar)

The best part is when an ACP who never served one day tries to tell me how it was in the Navy. (24 years, 15 AD, 9 RES)

Flika 03-27-2026 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 4017233)
Perhaps it’s time for Europe and Asia to actually pony up some resources to help insure the right of passage in the strait of Hormuz and enforce maritime free access. We’ve been carrying far more than our fair share of policing the oceans since the Marines took Tripoli.

That’s the cost of being the dominant global power and having the most powerful and capable navy in the world. Do you really want China policing shipping lanes? We took on the role of policing the seas from the Royal Navy after World War II, and you can still see the remnants of that system today with the Strait of Gibraltar.

You can argue others should contribute more, and they probably should, but we don’t ensure free trade out of the kindness of our hearts. It’s the price of maintaining a system that benefits us more than anyone else. Between China, Japan, South Korea, and India, we do nearly $1 trillion in trade, it’s 100% in our interest to ensure that oil keeps flowing.

Iran has already signaled it wants oil traded through the Strait of Hormuz tied to the yuan and is effectively charging a “toll” for passage in yuan. That was a very deliberate choice, and meant to hurt the US as much as possible.

That said, we've backed ourselves into this corner with Iran. The physical and economic damage is done. We’re quickly leaving ourselves with very few options.

Name User 03-27-2026 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by ugleeual (Post 4017236)
^^^ THIS ^^^ all these countries have become accustomed to the U.S. being the police force and spending all the $$$ and resources to protect their interests… needs to stop.

We do that to ensure trade is done in US dollars, it's what allows us to run $1T in deficit every year and print with impunity.



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