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rickair7777 05-03-2026 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by BlueScholar (Post 4030958)
Because Spirit’s CEO testified that they didn’t need the merger to survive, and Jet Blue testified that this would reduce competition and raise prices. That’s exactly what antitrust laws are designed to prevent.

If either executive testified differently it is very likely the outcome would have been different.

No it wouldn't have. I agree the Spirit CEO's testimony was dumb. B6 was probably *trying* to get out of the merger at that point.

Essentially any merger of any companies is going to reduce competition... the threshold should be long-term net-benefit (such as survival of a company in a specific niche).

jerryleber 05-03-2026 06:31 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 4031043)
No it wouldn't have.

You have no way of knowing that, but they didn't give the judge much choice, did they?

METO Guido 05-03-2026 06:39 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 4030940)
Yes, wouldn't bet on it for 2026.

Won’t matter much either way. Polemic duck soup imo. Screaming minorities don’t change. But crowds sure do. Once this tap & rack gen begins to turn, it’ll turn hard & fast.

Name User 05-03-2026 06:41 AM


Originally Posted by METO Guido (Post 4031050)
Won’t matter much either way. Polemic duck soup imo. Screaming minorities don’t change. But crowds sure do. Once this tap & rack gen begins to turn, it’ll turn hard & fast.

Did you just have a stroke

Name User 05-03-2026 06:43 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 4031042)
WSJ this morning...

The jet-fuel crisis is turning into a disaster for airlines.


Spirit’s demise is a silver lining for the airlines it competes with. Rivals will backfill some of the vacuum Spirit’s absence leaves behind—JetBlue immediately announced 11 new destinations from Fort Lauderdale, Fla. Analysts have said that Spirit’s closure will take unprofitable flying out of the market, giving the remaining airlines more pricing power.

So how is that a disaster for airlines? I don't understand how the title matches the rest of the paragraph.

METO Guido 05-03-2026 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by Name User (Post 4031051)
Did you just have a stroke

Airliners that operate at a loss. Stroke that. Silent majority v vocal minority. Look it up

OpieTaylor 05-03-2026 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by BlueScholar (Post 4030958)
Because Spirit’s CEO testified that they didn’t need the merger to survive, and Jet Blue testified that this would reduce competition and raise prices. That’s exactly what antitrust laws are designed to prevent.

If either executive testified differently it is very likely the outcome would have been different.

Judges fault, should have asked if they are going to need Ch11 to survive without a merger.

I doubt anyone can purger themselves by not clarifying if avoiding Ch11 to survive is outside the scope of the questioning on survival.

METO Guido 05-03-2026 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by OpieTaylor (Post 4031116)
Judges fault, should have asked if they are going to need Ch11 to survive without a merger.

I doubt anyone can purger themselves by not clarifying if avoiding Ch11 to survive is outside the scope of the questioning on survival.

What’s done is done. The impact of tanker traffic at a standstill. When does that farce go away?

OpieTaylor 05-03-2026 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by METO Guido (Post 4031138)
What’s done is done. The impact of tanker traffic at a standstill. When does that farce go away?

Today as long as we sign a deal saying they can start enriching uranium in 2036, and promise to shoot down Israeli jets attacking them under that threat.

jerryleber 05-03-2026 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by OpieTaylor (Post 4031116)
Judges fault, should have asked if they are going to need Ch11 to survive without a merger.

Cool. Judges cross-examining witnesses.


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