Even if Iran’s spiritual house of horror could be ‘obliterated’ with a single headshot, which of course it can’t, foolish to pretend a replacement won’t swiftly take up the cause. Or maybe it’s just me? 84yo swami zealots muttering death sermons behind cheesy silver whisker floor sweepers would never order a suicide vest like nuke attack. No wayyy.

What we’re witnessing is no charade, docudrama or global protest. Bonafide shooting war in near real time. The kind where souls vanish, bodies burn, untold millions of dreams end both near and far. A generation of blame & bitter reprisal to follow. New normals come quicker all the time. Get used to it.

Even if that's actually the case, do you think we can change any of it? We've been trying to change hearts and minds by force in the ME for at least half a century. It ain't working. It's never going to work. We are literally creating new generations of terrorists with every single bomb we drop.

what are your thoughts on the tulsi gabbard depo where she said they had not reconstituted their nuclear capes and also refused to answer if iran was an imminent threat? Imo this does not allow for your assessment to be valid

Do you seriously believe Hiroshima and Nagasaki WERE NOT “civilian infrastructure”? Or Tokyo? Or Dresden? Or Frankfurt?

It’s the case alright & no we can’t change it. Another gen of jihad is born. But they won’t sling superpower javelins with impunity. Not yet anyway. Policing the planet is a forever burden. But we must protect payday. Treason to abandon government staff like this in a time of war. Playing games with uniformed ranks is to light the fuse on martial decree.

We've gone from No More Wars to Carpet Bombing is Good in less than 30 days.

Hard to keep up with you people.

Doesn’t really matter if it’s tomorrow or 10 years from now. It should have been done a long time ago. Too bad we couldn’t have left Afghanistan the rubble that it was and just started with this one, but it is what it is.

Honestly, I don’t know. It’s hard to separate the various biases, which includes media reporting, and know what the real truth is. We saw that in the run up to Iraq in 2003 with WMD. I think many legitimately thought there was WMD. Heck, even Iraqi generals were reportedly shocked to find out they didn’t have it. But in fairness, there was apparently also a lot of pressure to assess they had it, which turned out to be wrong. IDK.

Again, I’m not arguing one way or the other. My point is that assessments can be wrong, and they can also change over the course of 8 months. That doesn’t (necessarily) prove anyone is lying.

Regardless, folks, please take a breath here. Lots of borderline posts, and some that have gone way over the line, on both sides. It is very clear on the posted Forum Rules, APC is not the place for partisan politics, among other things. If you can’t discuss the impacts of current events without breaking the posted Rules, those posts will be adjudicated appropriately. And when people can’t follow the long-posted rules, don’t be shocked when that happens, or when threads like this get closed.

Maybe, just maybe, the greatest nation in the world with the most powerful and advanced military in this history of humanity should really make sure that their assessment is correct before alienating allies and creating a worldwide economic disaster.

You just completely evaded an answer . Did you watch the deposition of our head of intelligence or not? That is not a bias, its HER direct words. So, what are your thoughts? You wanted to play the game mod or not. The head of our intelligence refuted (subjectively) your claim. Be a stand up flight lead and own the debrief my friend.