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Old 03-20-2026 | 05:32 PM
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Yeah, the only difference is this administration was very obviously full of sh!t from the get go. Unless you are neck deep into the cult, anyone with multiple brain cells knew there was no way of knowing their nuclear program was "obliterated." Questioning that was not "fake news."
It's a trick question. The answer is not lying then or lying now. It's both.

So taking them at their word about a imminent nuclear threat in March 2026, when they were lying about destroying the imminent nuclear threat in June 2025, is just plain dumb.
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Old 03-20-2026 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Generally, in a war, BOTH SIDES LIE, if only by omission. After the Battle of Savo, the US didn’t admit it had lost 1000 personnel and three heavy cruisers in a 21 minute night engagement delaying even the notices of death for almost three months.

https://www.history.navy.mil/about-u...09/h009-1.html

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The "both sides lie" BS is a cop out and a poor attempt to handwave the fact that this administration quite literally ran on no new wars, and ran on the idea that if Kamala were president, we would go to war with Iran. If any MAGA voter can't call this for what it is, they are truly in a cult.

We are in a war with Iran, and we have been lied to plain and simple.
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US Pauses Sanctions on Iranian Oil

I thought this was satire at first…
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Old 03-20-2026 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbosina
Yup I saw yesterday the Saudis are forecasting $180/barrel.

$150/bbl is generally considered the level at which the American economy will tip into a severe recession.
It hit $150 in 2008 IIRC, which with $4/gal gas was when the economy started to crumble.

$4 in 2008 is $6 in 2026, but wait, there's more. CAFE average fleet fuel economy was ~25 mpg in 2008, today it's ~34, a 35% increase. So $4 gas has a similar effect to the overall economy as $8 would in 2026.

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Old 03-20-2026 | 06:22 PM
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It hit $150 in 2008 IIRC, which with $4/gal gas was when the economy started to crumble.

$4 in 2008 is $6 in 2026, but wait, there's more. CAFE average fleet fuel economy was ~25 mpg in 2008, today it's ~34, a 35% increase. So $4 gas has a similar effect to the overall economy as $8 would in 2026.
Except the price of oil affects a lot more than what you pay for auto gas. Pretty much every physical product you can buy, goes through multiple shipping stages. And then you've got things like jet fuel -- if you saw Scott's note today, oil at $175/bl will cost United 250 percent of its best-ever annual profits. I could go on, but auto gas is just one small component of the price shock that's coming if this war continues much longer. We've seen this movie before. "Stagflation II: Trumpflation" will be one for the history books.
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Old 03-20-2026 | 06:23 PM
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US Pauses Sanctions on Iranian Oil

I thought this was satire at first…
I'm dying to hear the MAGA crowd's justification for this one.
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Old 03-20-2026 | 06:25 PM
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It was Sun Tzu in the Art of War that famously said: “They know Kamala and her warmonger Cabinet will invade the Middle East, get millions of Muslims killed and start World War III,” he adds, pledging to “BRING BACK PEACE!”
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Old 03-20-2026 | 06:25 PM
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Tulsi gabbard admits iran did not rebuild its nuclear capes and declined to answer if they were an imminent threat to the united states. Yay team!
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Old 03-20-2026 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by checkgear
US Pauses Sanctions on Iranian Oil

I thought this was satire at first…
Seriously…this is one of those ‘truth is stranger than fiction’ moments. I can’t wait to hear the MAGA spin on this one. Go ahead, Dear Leader loyalists….
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Old 03-20-2026 | 06:55 PM
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I don’t understand it. So we are at war with them, but we LIFT the sanctions on their oil, which is now worth double the price on the open market, BECAUSE we’re at war with them, and they can now use this windfall, to help wage war against us…
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