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Old 04-12-2026 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Extenda
America has been at war with itself for the last two decades. We’re less of a society and more a collection of independent contractors trying to make enough money to outrun all the problems that the boomers did nothing to try to solve and which we continue to not try to solve.

If you’re asking Americans to get together and face 5-6+ gallon gas with a brave face for the “greater good” it ain’t gonna happen.
then…we lose?
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Old 04-12-2026 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by METO Guido
then…we lose?
America hasn’t won a war since WW2

Korea: ceded half of the country
Vietnam: lost completely
Iraq: broke the country and created ISIS
Afghanistan: lost to the Taliban
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Old 04-12-2026 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by METO Guido
then…we lose?
What in the world is “winning” going to look like and how are they going to achieve it? They’re completely winging it from one day to the next.
Old 04-12-2026 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by AAdvocate
Short term pain for long term gains. We can't keep kicking this can down the road like previous administrations. NACHO is finally addressing it.(Never Avoids Confronting Hard Obstacles)

You know what would be hard obstacles?

Epstein files (actually not, just release them).



Daycare - have you seen birth rates? Record low. Going even below replacement minimums. So either you allow more immigration and/or make it easier for new parents to work and have more kids.

Instead, we get “we can’t do daycare. We can’t. We need even more money to defend America.”

Healthcare - Trump’s always got a plan. Never shared nor executed.


SS / Medicare - crickets




Hard obstacles, what a joke. Bombing brown people is easy. It’s mostly pushing buttons. And as this Iran incursion shows, you don’t even need a plan for that. Or an exit strategy. But Trump had a great exit plan for Vietnam for himself.
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Old 04-12-2026 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Extenda
America has been at war with itself for the last two decades. We’re less of a society and more a collection of independent contractors trying to make enough money to outrun all the problems that the boomers did nothing to try to solve and which we continue to not try to solve.

If you’re asking Americans to get together and face 5-6+ gallon gas with a brave face for the “greater good” it ain’t gonna happen.
Oh that’s coming whether they like it or not.


The only question is if the cult will finally break free and realize who caused their problems and be honest about it.

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Old 04-12-2026 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by LonesomeSky
America hasn’t won a war since WW2

Korea: ceded half of the country
Vietnam: lost completely
Iraq: broke the country and created ISIS
Afghanistan: lost to the Taliban
Korea and Vietnam were in response to unchecked Communist imperialism and it needed to be stopped. Once the USRR realized that the U.S. would resist every attempt they chilled out on it a little bit.

Iraq and Afghanistan would have never happened without 9/11. 9/11 occurred directly as a result of 8 years of horrible and weak foreign policy under Clinton. OBL should have been taken out in the mid-90s.
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Old 04-12-2026 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Extenda
If you’re asking Americans to get together and face 5-6+ gallon gas with a brave face for the “greater good” it ain’t gonna happen.
Previous POTUS made a statement saying would should all have to endure higher gas prices all for the "greater good" of helping Ukraine.
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Old 04-12-2026 | 03:51 PM
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Apparently getting licensed to open hospice care and medical equipment businesses is fairly straightforward and theres lots of funding!
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Old 04-12-2026 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Extenda
What in the world is “winning” going to look like and how are they going to achieve it? They’re completely winging it from one day to the next.
Just don’t lose, period. Worry about how to spin the cost later.

Fighting without fear of losing isn’t fighting. But while on the topic, ufc crap, sad substitute for the sweet science imho. Wild world
https://youtu.be/RV67UVgtpFU?si=ljYr9H8gqiy2o5nY
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Old 04-12-2026 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Oh that’s coming whether they like it or not.


The only question is if the cult will finally break free and realize who caused their problems and be honest about it.
The following is from the book "Evil in Modern Thought" by Susan Neiman. (page228)

"For nothing works so well in getting someone to give up a position as making him feel ashamed of it."

Once one becomes emotionally invested or ideological in certain views, suasion has little effect.
It took the calamity of total collapse to break the fever of the Riech's Nazis.
And even then, many went to their graves as true believers. Publicly calling 'their' monstrous crimes contrived falsehoods/propaganda, while privately fiercely proud of what 'they' did.
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