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Old 04-12-2026 | 07:49 PM
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What happed to energy independent?

I’d think between Canada, ourselves and S America this shouldn’t cause much issue in the US, seems like BS price gouging
Funny thing about US airliners, they fly to (and must refuel in)...wait for it .. foreign countries.
Old 04-12-2026 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbosina
Funny thing about US airliners, they fly to (and must refuel in)...wait for it .. foreign countries.
maybe we will start tankering.
Old 04-12-2026 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by worstpilotever
maybe we will start tankering.
Yes, I'm sure our WB fleet can tanker all the gas they need to fly to SIN, HKG, TPE etc etc and back without refueling. We just need the 777-11X with the 30-hour tank setup.
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Korea supplies something like 70% of west coast jet fuel, now that Korea isn't getting crude, no jet fuel for the west coast.

If anything it's the opposite, seems some powerful people with deep pockets are keeping a lid on commodity prices somehow. Even with recent upticks in production from other places, we are at least 5 million barrels a day short. Oil should be trading in the $200+ range by now.
sounds like we’re invading Korea next…
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The SoH handles.< 20% of the world's crude. Period. It's a pinch in the flow, not a total kink. Yes, doing daily with less, but oil isnt single-sourced from the Strait. More of the same ahead...take a breath, its ok.
Old 04-13-2026 | 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted by MELedMel
What happed to energy independent?

I’d think between Canada, ourselves and S America this shouldn’t cause much issue in the US, seems like BS price gouging
doesn’t do much good when that aircraft needs fuel in a non energy independent country…to get home
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Originally Posted by threeighteen
sounds like we’re invading Korea next…
before or after Cuba?
Old 04-13-2026 | 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Beech Dude
The SoH handles.< 20% of the world's crude. Period. It's a pinch in the flow, not a total kink. Yes, doing daily with less, but oil isnt single-sourced from the Strait. More of the same ahead...take a breath, its ok.
That 20% represents the biggest energy shock in modern history. A recession is sustained negative GDP and a depression is defined as negative 10% GDP.
Old 04-13-2026 | 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by jerryleber
That 20% represents the biggest energy shock in modern history. A recession is sustained negative GDP and a depression is defined as negative 10% GDP.
The embargo in the 70s, when the spigot actually shut was more of a shock. We were paying about the same for crude 4 years ago (Brent avg was $100) and the world/media wasn't crying about it. 89 was almost $7/gal on the West Coast and in Chicago. GDP for 2025 was 2.1%. Q1 2026 estimates are 1.8-2.3% from what I've seen. Woosah
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Originally Posted by Beech Dude
The embargo in the 70s, when the spigot actually shut was more of a shock. We were paying about the same for crude 4 years ago (Brent avg was $100) and the world/media wasn't crying about it. 89 was almost $7/gal on the West Coast and in Chicago. GDP for 2025 was 2.1%. Q1 2026 estimates are 1.8-2.3% from what I've seen. Woosah
How much energy infrastructure was destroyed 4 years ago?
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