Originally Posted by newarkblows

making six figures a year with 18 days off a month(including holidays) after only 10 years of seniority? I dont think that is a bad deal and it is possible at some of the better regionals. Especially if you had a side business or just invested wisely... you could do fairly well for yourself. ITs time for a reality check if you think the majors are going to keep being the "greener side of the fence". If the majors don't get scope back the regionals WILL be a better career choice. Slightly riskier in the long run but so are majors.

skyhigh i also dont agree with your opinion on "losing out on money." I dont know about you but learning how to fly outside of huge universities is still about 30-40G's which can be viewed as expensive as a masters. Most MBA or equivalents earn about 40 - 70 g's out of school. This is what you could have been making if you got your 4 yr degree, flew for a regional for two years and upgraded somewhere around the 2 yr mark. You would still have made more then that masters degree student. I wish we got paid more too but for young people getting into the industry its comparative to what you could be earning in the outside world. If you want to blame regionals for the major pilots problems then i wonder how they voted on their contract with the scope agreement.

Originally Posted by CALPilotToo

Wait a damn minute. SWAPA is one of the biggest flag flyers for age 65. Talk to those you sit next to. Don't worry about management on this one as you guys have pushed for it as much as anyone.

Originally Posted by ewrbasedpilot

Yeah, I agree. The SWA pilot who is gunning for this needs his fricking @ss worked off. He can go buy his own plane and fly it till he dies, but quit trying to make me work for the rest of my life. He says it's about money, but correct me if I'm wrong.............didn't SWA give out their government "bailout money" as profit sharing? How have the SWA pilots been financially harmed by 9-11. That's what I thought........they WEREN'T. Apparently that guy doesn't have nor need a life.

Originally Posted by SkyHigh

Perhaps at a few regionals it is possible to upgrade within a few years however this is a rare and an unusual time in aviation. Soon things will equalize and upgrade times will go back to 5 plus years everywhere.

In addition an MBA commonly starts out in the lower 70's and goes up from there. Regional pilots are stuck there for a long time. I do agree that perhaps the regionals will be a good place when compared to what the majors are offering but when compared to what pilots use to earn it is a miserable drop in the bucket.

What the regionals are offering might be acceptable for the current generation when they are getting hired with 500 hours but I didn't spend all those years struggling to make slightly more than a mailman. In time I am sure that management at the regionals will also strive to lower pay.

An MBA will always beat a flying career.

Skyhigh

Originally Posted by Lighteningspeed

At Mesaba the newest CA upgrade award is an August 2007 hire! Upgrade is down to 2 months or less now for Saab at Mesaba.

Originally Posted by seaav8tor

I’m sure the folks in back would be giddy to know all the vast experience their cockpit crew has with a whole 2 months at the airline for the CA and perhaps less for the FO? Not if but when this kind of staffing results in a hull loss who will be on CNN trying to defend it?

Originally Posted by CVG767A

I can understand your comment; flying domestic narrow body is exhausting-

Originally Posted by A320fumes

they also printed a brochure that said employees that took pay-cuts shouldn't be ashamed to shop at the Goodwill or junk-yards.

Originally Posted by Lighteningspeed

At Mesaba the newest CA upgrade award is an August 2007 hire! Upgrade is down to 2 months or less now for Saab at Mesaba.

Originally Posted by SkyHigh

While that is all good news all this upgrading can not go on forever. Pilots in training today most likely will face a much diffrent future.

SkyHigh